I use to work with a gun dealer and he told me that a friend of his bought a .50 at a gun show and the very next day either the ATF or the Secert Service was knocking on his door wanting to know what his intentions were. They couldn't do anything since it was a legal purchase. Just food for thought if your realy thinking about getting one you might be getting some new friends too.
im an avid shooter and a huge fan of guns, but why would a civilian need a 50 cal? there's very few places that you could really stretch out and shoot to its range capability plus the ammo is expensive and the guns are expensive. Not to mention how many people are even trained or capable of pushing the 50 anywhere close to its capabilities? A 308 will do anything out to 1000yds and is much cheaper to own.
I dont have a problem with anyone owning a 50, i just think its pointless. Ive got a buddy who has a 50. Sure its neat, but he can only shoot it out to 600-700m due to not having enough room on his land. If your into target shooting, a 308 will do just fine at 600 and beyond that some. I dunno, i guess im into owning guns that are practical and i can actually take out and use on a regular basis w/o having to drive forever to find enough room to shoot them. 10 minute drive and i can shoot to 600+ yds with my 308.
There are some who think you dont need a high powered sniper rifle like a .308. They are using the .50BMG as a lead in, because after all, any reasonable sportsman would agree there is no reason a civilian would own a .50 for hunting. Only, it's not about hunting, which is why it is exactly a firearm such as a .50 that is protected by the 2A. It's not about what is practical from a logistical or economic point, it's about what is a personal individual right that is expressely protected by the Supreme Law of the land. Do you think the 2A only applies to practical sporting arms and hunting? Would you support a ban on 50's? How about a ban on high powered sniper rifles?
Not trying to strike a nerve here, just playing devil's advocate...I don't think there is anything practical about having an 800 HP diesel truck either, but they sure are fun!
http://www.impactguns.com/store/MGT-003794.html :bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::rockwoot::bowfast::bowfast::bowfast::bowfast::bowfast::bowfast: If i could only.... F250 Techinical....
Quote from Wiki:
A common method for understanding the actual power of a cartridge is by comparing muzzle energies. The Springfield .30-06, the standard caliber for American soldiers in World War II and a popular caliber amongst American hunters, can produce muzzle energies between 2000 and 3000 foot pounds of energy (between 3 and 4 kilojoules). A .50 BMG round can produce between 10,000 and 15,000 foot pounds (between 14 and 18 kilojoules) or more, depending on its powder and bullet type, as well as the rifle it was fired from. Due to the high ballistic coefficient of the bullet, the .50 BMG's trajectory also suffers less "drift" from cross-winds than smaller and lighter calibers, making the .50 BMG a good choice for high powered sniper rifles.
If you can shoot a .308 or other similar rifle out to 600 yards with consistency you can do the same with a 50 BMG without an issue.
I have no reason to own one, and my scratch my head why others may want one. But I 100% support any law abiding American citizen owning one. And I know why some may see a need for one.
Whats even more fun is the gun my friends uncle custom built around a round that he developed. Its a .300 win mag necked down to a .20 bullet. He said he built it because "..he was tired of leaving his chair to hunt little chit." in Monahans, TX. We have tried numerous times to get a reading with a chronograph but it just blows it all over hell. Right now hes got it sighted in dead on at 400 yards and if I remember correctly somewhere around 2 inches high at 700. Its a whole hell of a lot of fun.
"In this country, for now, a citizen isn't required to have a need. Why would you require him to have one? Why would you propogate the idea that it is impracticle? Can I infer from your remarks that you do not think the 2A applies to all guns? Funny really, since it all got started when King George came to take away privately owned cannons, since a civilian didn't need a cannon. Our forefathers puke a little in thier mouths every time someone asks a question like that."
I read the post that prompted this response. The feeling is not one of right to ownership, but of practicality.
Many of us who have used guns in our everyday life at some stage, see them as "tools".
To spend this kind of money on a "tool" that you will "likey" never use seems kind of silly. When "tools" that will perform more/several jobs are around...
That said, It's his money and his right to do what he wants.
Not everyone who uses a gun as part of everyday life agrees. In your opinion it is impractical, as it is also Lukes opinion. However the OP did not ask for those opinions, so I fail to see the need to interject that opinion unless you are trying to make some sort of issue or point. I stand by my original remarks, and assert that just the question of need or practicality is an affront to the spirit of the 2A, and is just another step in incrementalism. Every time someone asks me why I "need" something, I ask them why they think they "need" to open their mouth.
I have an Armalite AR-50 in my collection. So far I have had a blast! (No Pun) Shooting the system. Getting a decent optic on it needs to be considered while looking to purchase a .50 BMG....
Also I would try to get a press and as much components as you can get your hands on! I am setup to reload using an RCBS Press and dies.
If you have any specific questions about it I can post pics and give you feedback.
I would go for a dedicated platform over an upper just because it's well Cooler!
I'll try to get it for you. My friend's dad is the one that does the reloading for it and hes headed out to some sig sauer convention in palm springs or something. He wants to get his armorer's license:shrug: and do stuff for the the local pd.
"Not everyone who uses a gun as part of everyday life agrees. In your opinion it is impractical, as it is also Lukes opinion. However the OP did not ask for those opinions, so I fail to see the need to interject that opinion unless you are trying to make some sort of issue or point. I stand by my original remarks, and assert that just the question of need or practicality is an affront to the spirit of the 2A, and is just another step in incrementalism. Every time someone asks me why I "need" something, I ask them why they think they "need" to open their mouth."
One man's opinion and worth just as much as anyone elses, including mine.
Bohica shoots .870 MOA at recent Quantico 1000yrd match first time out with handloads that are not quite dialed in. (That's under an inch at 100yrds, and 8.5" groups at 1000yrds BTW) This is just the beginning since Bohicas are just entering competition. I predict a lot of snobs with 6-10K guns are going to be crying about getting their ases handed to them this year by 2K (including scope) rifles.LOL
And another elitist rides the bus. They key word above is "have". The Bohica accuracy potential should be very obvious from the thread I linked to, so either you did not read it, or do not comprehend the information therein. The Bohica is going to be a contender to deal with much to the Armalite and other Kool-Aid drinkers. The owner of Bohica will show that you can build an affordable and highly accurate 50BMG, and that is not going to be something the high priced competition will like.
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