Socialized medicine leads to euthanasia

[PsRumors]

Originally Posted by Suns_PSD

Auto insurance IS REQUIRED by the government. Are you kidding me dude? It's required because if you hit someone you have directly effected someone else. Right now the legal punishment for not having auto insurance that might cost someone else $25K is way way higher than the non-existent punishment for not having health insurance and sticking everyone else with your bills.

Um....last I checked not everyone is required to have auto insurance....please site the law that states everyone must have insurance....please.

Originally Posted by Suns_PSD

And your point about the lady, you subsidized that womans's discount rate because of her lack of insurance. The ONLY way that doctor could afford to do that work for free was to charge others more. So you (and I and everyone else that spends $10K/ year on medical insurance) subsidized that women's discount surgery. If she would have been made to pay for health insurance, she would have paid in to the system and all would be fair. But she didn't.

So you don't believe it is unethical for the Doc to charge my insurance $10k above his cost for a 2 hour stay in the surgical center? Yes, a hysterectomy is now out patient.

How is the Doc not unethical for making a buck on the back of other's misery?

Where do you draw the line?

Originally Posted by Suns_PSD

Ps. I hope your wife is feeling fine now. :)

She is doing well, thanks.

[Suns_PSD]

I'd love to hear solutions for solving the problem of my aquaintance, Ron.

Everything I said is factual.

He chose not to buy health insurance, and now he has huge medical bills that he will never pay. Which means that we pay them.

What would you suggest realistically? What would you change about our current laws to ensure that he is responsible for his bill, with interest of course?

[Suns_PSD]

Originally Posted by PsRumors

Um....last I checked not everyone is required to have auto insurance....please site the law that states everyone must have insurance....please.



So you don't believe it is unethical for the Doc to charge my insurance $10k above his cost for a 2 hour stay in the surgical center? Yes, a hysterectomy is now out patient.

How is the Doc not unethical for making a buck on the back of other's misery?

Where do you draw the line?



She is doing well, thanks.

Everyone needs healthcare. Only those that drive cars need auto insurance. Once again, you lose.

The doc is not unethical. He is like everyone else out there and he is charging the insurance negotiated rates per your insurance plan. I's imagine he'd prefer to charge everyone $5K, do the same amount of total procedures, and end up w/ the same amount of money at the end of the year. But that is not his choice as the uninsured don't pay and he and the facility that he works for has to absorb the cost of the uninsured as part of their total operating costs. It's not a small amount.

What is unethical is the person that doesn't have health insurance and doesn't have the means to pay for any amount of medical care that they or their families might need at any time. That is who is unethical.

[silverf250]

Garnish your acquaintances wages is the answer. Those who already are so poor that can't afford insurance can't afford mandatory insurance either.