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Old 10-16-2012, 01:50 AM
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Re: 203 t-stat

im just curious does this change the water temp gauge at all?(stock gauge)

also im with CSIPSD i wouldnt want to make any more heat than i have to, i dont care how great your diesel runs hot, i can promise you that my diesel with stock stat runs just as great if not better on the absolute coldest days of the year. they love cold air, just like a campfire or woodstove, they burn better with cold air. so why make more heat to warm my cold air?

not trying to dis your product, i hope you sell another million of them and i mean that. but i as well as some others just do not see the need to change a good thing, and maybe your right who am i to say otherwise, but if it was meant to be hotter it would be hotter though the newer trucks are set to run hotter temps but then again they arent the tried and true 7.3 powerstroke...
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Re: 203 t-stat

Bob,

I can hear the difference in the motor. When the oil gets to those temps I can feel performance drop off. I can hear it in the turbo. I can see it in the exhaust.

I like everyone of your products, this is one I can not put my own thoughts on.
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im just curious does this change the water temp gauge at all?(stock gauge)

also im with CSIPSD i wouldnt want to make any more heat than i have to, i dont care how great your diesel runs hot, i can promise you that my diesel with stock stat runs just as great if not better on the absolute coldest days of the year. they love cold air, just like a campfire or woodstove, they burn better with cold air. so why make more heat to warm my cold air?

not trying to dis your product, i hope you sell another million of them and i mean that. but i as well as some others just do not see the need to change a good thing, and maybe your right who am i to say otherwise, but if it was meant to be hotter it would be hotter though the newer trucks are set to run hotter temps but then again they arent the tried and true 7.3 powerstroke...

Cold air = dense air, which means more mass.

Cold air and a hot engine and you have the best burn. Your hot cylinder does not heat up your cold air charge. Use your firewood as an example. The hotter the fire, the cleaner the burn. Diesel fuel is no different.

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Bob,

I can hear the difference in the motor. When the oil gets to those temps I can feel performance drop off. I can hear it in the turbo. I can see it in the exhaust.

I like everyone of your products, this is one I can not put my own thoughts on.
Joe,

Ever think that maybe your injection timing is a bit too advanced and as the combustion timing might complete sooner with a hotter temp, you might have passed a point that your engine likes or at least it sounds different?

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im just curious does this change the water temp gauge at all?(stock gauge)

but if it was meant to be hotter it would be hotter powerstroke...

Like I've said many times. It WAS hotter and the EPA forced a change. The 94-95 7.3L Powerstrokes ran an OEM 203.

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Old 10-16-2012, 02:22 AM
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You of all people know how little time I spend posting anymore. This should tell you how passionate I am about this product. We don't make junk, and I certainly would never steer anyone wrong ever. Just not my style.

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You of all people know how little time I spend posting anymore. This should tell you how passionate I am about this product. We don't make junk, and I certainly would never steer anyone wrong ever. Just not my style.

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Bob,

Thats why I never have a bad thing to say about any of your products.

You are an inovator in our... your industry and an inovator in my hobby.

I just dont believe in the 203* stat.

Joe
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Re: 203 t-stat

we have a lot of moisture in this part of the county..i kind of like the oil at 235* to boil out any moisture that collects..water dont boil at 200*.. i have also noticed that alot of car's now a day run almost 210* water temps..
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here's one for ya. I have all the respect and faith in Bob's products. But living in Southern Az I have a 180* tstat. In summer first thing in the morning my CTS shows eot @ about 100* before cranking and within a mile or two it's @ 207*. Towing a 13K toyhauler in 100* temps on 6/7% pulls my eot will see 240* & ect about 220+*. And like Bob said when it's working hard on those pulls @ those temps it feels stronger than running around town. I run a syn oil so I'm not concerned with the temps I see. I think the climate you are in will dictate what works best for you.
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im just curious does this change the water temp gauge at all?(stock gauge)

also im with CSIPSD i wouldnt want to make any more heat than i have to, i dont care how great your diesel runs hot, i can promise you that my diesel with stock stat runs just as great if not better on the absolute coldest days of the year. they love cold air, just like a campfire or woodstove, they burn better with cold air. so why make more heat to warm my cold air?
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the turbo makes better boost with cold air.the colder the air is,the better the power is ,,,thats why we have cold air intakes...thats why you feel more power..when your under hood temps come up..you loose some of the power... a wood stove starts better with cold air..it forces a draft to start the fire or make the fire burn hotter.....

as for the first question..the dash gauge is not telling you much of anything....its cold..its just right or its hot...i forget how many temps in between the gauge doesnt tell you..but its quite a bit..ever notice when a car over heats the gauge is the last to tell you?? put a macanicle gauge on your truck and you will see what i mean..
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