Illegals

[TANK'S 250]

Originally Posted by Pocket

We have a "lax" border compared to what?

You know, back in the good old days, the days of our conservative Christian forefathers, there was no such thing as "border patrol". For a long time, there was no such thing as immigration either.

Now suddenly it's evil? I don't quite get it. We are all inhabitants of this planet, so I'm not sure of the significance of drawing lines in the dirt, and how it equates to "violating this country and the people".
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Laws have changed from the betterment of society...

Why should I pay taxes, and the new people (illegals) don't have to?
Why should my car insurance be so high...to pay for the illegal Mexicans that bought a beater car and don't have any(uninsured motorist coverage)?
Why should my I pay taxes to help fund welfare..so the people that have false ID documents can collect the money?
Why should I pay for healthcare...yet illegals get it for free?

...I could go on and on about this....

[Pocket]

Originally Posted by TANK'S 250

Laws have changed from the betterment of society...

Be prepared to put your flame suit on, since the residential wingnuts have disagreed with that very ideal for quite a while now. Somehow they translate that to an eventual government takeover and the chipping away of our constitutional rights and freedoms.

Originally Posted by TANK'S 250

Why should I pay taxes, and the new people (illegals) don't have to?

Who is saying that's the way it should be?

Originally Posted by TANK'S 250

Why should my car insurance be so high...to pay for the illegal Mexicans that bought a beater car and don't have any(uninsured motorist coverage)?

Who is saying that's the way it should be?

Originally Posted by TANK'S 250

Why should my I pay taxes to help fund welfare..so the people that have false ID documents can collect the money?

Who is saying that's the way it should be?

Originally Posted by TANK'S 250

Why should I pay for healthcare...yet illegals get it for free?

Who is saying that's the way it should be?

Originally Posted by TANK'S 250

...I could go on and on about this....

And I can keep asking the same question.

Pointing out the problems and issues with this country is fine and dandy. We all know there's lots of issues, loopholes, fraud, etc going on from all walks of life, regardless of citizenship or immigration status.

The issue is how people, instead of looking for solutions, do nothing but point the finger of blame on who they believe are on the "other side" of the fence, and then blindly claim that the other side somehow supports these problems as some sort of uber secret conspiracy to bring this country into total chaos.

Doesn't make sense. Why? What hurts one side, also hurts the other. Democrats pay the same taxes as republicans, and vice versa. Democrats are subjected to being victims of crimes the same as republicans, and vice versa. Democrats are subjected to being victims of fraud the same as republicans, and vice versa. People spend too much time trying to politicize problems rather than solve them, much less acknowledge the actual root causes.

Just something to think about. Hope you don't mind me piggy backing your post to make that point. Hope you don't get flamed for that first sentence either. But I doubt it will happen. If I said it instead of you, this thread would have probably exploded.

[Binderpower]

Originally Posted by Pocket

Pointing out the problems and issues with this country is fine and dandy. We all know there's lots of issues, loopholes, fraud, etc going on from all walks of life, regardless of citizenship or immigration status.

The issue is how people, instead of looking for solutions, do nothing but point the finger of blame on who they believe are on the "other side" of the fence, and then blindly claim that the other side somehow supports these problems as some sort of uber secret conspiracy to bring this country into total chaos.

Doesn't make sense. Why? What hurts one side, also hurts the other. Democrats pay the same taxes as republicans, and vice versa. Democrats are subjected to being victims of crimes the same as republicans, and vice versa. Democrats are subjected to being victims of fraud the same as republicans, and vice versa. People spend too much time trying to politicize problems rather than solve them, much less acknowledge the actual root causes.

Just something to think about. Hope you don't mind me piggy backing your post to make that point. Hope you don't get flamed for that first sentence either. But I doubt it will happen. If I said it instead of you, this thread would have probably exploded.

Goes back to actions speak louder than words = talk is cheap, takes money to buy whiskey! I'll look at what a person has done vs what they say they will do.

What I can't stand is this so called war on women! The left is the biggest bunch of hypocrits and the women buy it! First and foremost you have the biggest womanizer in the world of power, Billy Clinton, and next you have Jesse Jackson defending rapist after rapist. Where is the outrage from women????
I will show you;
Case dropped against five teens in alleged rape of girl, 12 - Philly.com

THE LEFT HAS GIVEN RAPE A PASS: DANIEL GREENFIELD | RUTHFULLY YOURS


Again actions speak louder than words!

We can get into financials if you wish. My feeling on the whole thing is who is the bigger crook? That is what it comes down to.

[DSTRBD]

Originally Posted by Pocket

Try me.

I dont think I understand what you are trying to say. Please elaborate on your stance to help me better understand what you are trying to get across with this statement.

[ajfetterman]

Originally Posted by Binderpower

Goes back to actions speak louder than words = talk is cheap, takes money to buy whiskey! I'll look at what a person has done vs what they say they will do.

What I can't stand is this so called war on women! The left is the biggest bunch of hypocrits and the women buy it! First and foremost you have the biggest womanizer in the world of power, Billy Clinton, and next you have Jesse Jackson defending rapist after rapist. Where is the outrage from women????
I will show you;
Case dropped against five teens in alleged rape of girl, 12 - Philly.com

THE LEFT HAS GIVEN RAPE A PASS: DANIEL GREENFIELD | RUTHFULLY YOURS


Again actions speak louder than words!

We can get into financials if you wish. My feeling on the whole thing is who is the bigger crook? That is what it comes down to.

Umm Binder?... you have a few threads going where you defend rapists....you blame the woman for looking to sexy. So ease up on Jessie Jackson unless you changed your view on it.

[ajfetterman]

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I apologize...you only started one of these. Still you defend the rapist. Because according to you, if a woman goes out in anything other than a burqa, they are dressed too slutty and are asking to be raped.

[Pocket]

Originally Posted by DSTRBD

I dont think I understand what you are trying to say. Please elaborate on your stance to help me better understand what you are trying to get across with this statement.

I was asking how crossing an invisible and magical line in the dirt somehow violates this country and its people.

Because it's really retarded if you think of it. You can't cross an invisible line in the dirt without "papers". For nearly the first 100 years of this country's existence, we didn't care about that concept. What actually spawned that concept in the first place was racism.

And guess what? It's STILL about racism. All we do is target different groups. Right now it's Hispanics. We used to target Irish, blacks, Italians, Chinese, etc.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Pocket

I was asking how crossing an invisible and magical line in the dirt somehow violates this country and its people.

Because it's really retarded if you think of it. You can't cross an invisible line in the dirt without "papers". For nearly the first 100 years of this country's existence, we didn't care about that concept. What actually spawned that concept in the first place was racism.

And guess what? It's STILL about racism. All we do is target different groups. Right now it's Hispanics. We used to target Irish, blacks, Italians, Chinese, etc.

Actually it wasnt racism. It was crime and the need to slow immigration and track people coming in

[Binderpower]

Originally Posted by ajfetterman

Umm Binder?... you have a few threads going where you defend rapists....you blame the woman for looking to sexy. So ease up on Jessie Jackson unless you changed your view on it.

You have a reading comprehension problem sir. That is all I will state. You want it to read the way you want to hear it, that is it. You don't get it!

I alarm, and Rev. Jackson defends.

[Pocket]

Originally Posted by Dave

Actually it wasnt racism. It was crime and the need to slow immigration and track people coming in

No Dave, it was racism. We first targeted the Chinese.