USPS $5.2B quarterly loss

[ducatirider944]

Originally Posted by AK Gandy

Most everyone here already knew you are stupid and prone to be a scumbag, but that takes the cake.

Pocket mentioned in another thread that he and his wife can't have children...and then you fvcking pull that line?

And you call yourself a Christian?

I'll tell you what you are Binder, you're a lowlife, stupid as $hit, mutherfvckin #######...that's what you are.

Attacking family members or saying something that low, is about as lowlife as a person can get.

How does it feel to know you're the scum of the earth?

To top it all off, you're even too stupid to understand that it is the federal government that even allows you to make a living.

That's right you ignorant jerk.

You make your living off of farmers, yet farm subsidies are one of the biggest boondoggles we have.

So there you have it, you're too ignorant to even understand that you're sucking at the government tit just as much, if not more...than anyone else.


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I don't agree with the part in bold. Speaking of arrogant (seeing how your idol is Obama and he has to be the most arrogant dildo we have ever had for a President in history, your statement is fitting) How does a gov't "allow" one to work, when if those people weren't "allowed" to work there wouldn't be any money (aka tax base) for the gov't to exist in the first place? The working people of this nation "allow" the gov't to exist, because if it wasn't for the working there would be no money for the gov't to exist. Now if you made the statement that the gov't "allows" people to not work and still survive, that would be a true statement.

While Binders comment about Curtis not being able to reproduce was inappropriate and unacceptable, your response is equally unacceptable. There are about 6 members in this section of the forum that I can't even read the responses because there is so much trash talk and name calling I feel that I'm actually at a lower place than my daughter's daycare. Running around name calling other members is about as retarded as one can get and nobody is going to take you seriously even if you have a good thought or logical rebuttal to someones post.

This is why I even seldom post here anymore.

[PsRumors]

Originally Posted by Binderpower

I would love for you to come here and say what you just did. I would fix your little red wagon.


I would like you to come here and interview how many of these farmers receive farm subsidies, since most of these guys are vegetable growers.

They may not receive direct payments but they do get the government's help. What would happen to the price of fruits and vegetables if the government didn't buy the excess on the market? Not to mention how much government help is given for farm equipment, seed research and subsidized loans.

Whether you can admit it or not, the farming industry as a whole loves them some government subsidies.....

[AK Gandy]

Originally Posted by ducatirider944

Running around name calling other members is about as retarded as one can get.......

There is so much hypocrisy, irony and fail in that statement...nothing else needs to be said.

Originally Posted by ducatirider944

This is why I even seldom post here anymore.

It's been noticed, that your late night trolling of my posts has decreased.


Good job.





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[Binderpower]

Originally Posted by PsRumors

They may not receive direct payments but they do get the government's help. What would happen to the price of fruits and vegetables if the government didn't buy the excess on the market? Not to mention how much government help is given for farm equipment, seed research and subsidized loans.

Whether you can admit it or not, the farming industry as a whole loves them some government subsidies.....

I would beg to differ. We get the NAPMN (North American Potato Market New Report Weekly). I read it religiously every week. The past three years, we have been short as a whole for the industry. Potato farmers have been receiving a good price for their product. Many of the potato farmers were clearing in excessof $5,000/acre after all cost. The fryers (McCains, Lays, etc, have been demanding everything they can get their hands on). This year, they will be sitting very well.


Most if not all farmers (maybe all but .1% of the 2% of the whole farming population would want to keep farm subsidies, but most would rather do away with them. Raise the price where the product should be and let them farm. I can say without a doubt most of my growers receive nothing of any farm subsidy

All too many like to point fingers, but you plant 10 acres of anything, I dare any of you. Now try and keep that alive and well for 90 plus days so you can get a crop off. Ya you can forward contract or contract it out, but now a crop failure does occur. Now you have to fill that contract with thin air. Crop insurance will kick in, but you are still at a loss looking to fill a contract or you take the penalty and count your losses and look forward to next year.

Gandy, or anyone else, we can all talk as tough as nails with a full belly, but starve for a day, and you will appreciate all farmers.

[Binderpower]

Originally Posted by Pocket

And out comes the internet badass again. Everyone is a tough guy behind a computer screen.

I don't need to hide behind anyone or anything. You have my number.

[Binderpower]

Originally Posted by Pocket

So I still don't get you. For some reason working for the USPS means you can't make a decent living? And if you do make a decent living from working for USPS, then there's something wrong with that?

Since when did earning an honest wage and making a decent living suddenly become an evil thing? Binder, you're starting to sound like a socialist.



And you still are ignoring that it's because congress passed a mandate to USPS to force them to spend 70+ years worth of pension building funds in a span of 10 years.... and unprecedented move by any business. USPS has their hands tied. If congress didn't force this, USPS wouldn't be in this position in the first place.


It's EXACTLY the same as the government coming up to you and telling you to buy enough farm equipment, seed, fertilizer, and pesticide for the next 70 years, in a span of a 10-year time period. Think you could afford that without going into debt?

USPS runs just fine. There's nothing wrong with it. What is broken is the pension building mandate spending imposed by Congress.


Sense, once again you make none.



Again, that is a line of credit, not their debt back in the 90's, and not what they owed back in the 90's. LEARN WHAT A LINE OF CREDIT IS BEFORE YOU RESPOND AGAIN.

I or anyone still has to explain it word for word to you to possibly make this sink in your head.


They mandated this to prevent a future calamity on us taxpayers! If all these agencies, (gov't) want to continue paying these high price pensions, well then, you are gonna pay for them. I think they should make an amendment to maybe 20-25 years to pay it, but this also puts pressure on them to make the tough choices of what to cut. Especially from a revenue neutral business.

Hey pocket, why don't you talk to some growers out there, they don't have a gov't pension plan. They pay for their own insurance, own retirement(which is mostly selling the farm to their predecessor). I will wager the farm, that they pay more out of pocket for insurance than you. Most farms are on a 30 or 40 year plan. They don't get most of it paid off till that time, and they still have to deal with losses in those bad years (like this year). In a year like this, you will be thankful for farm subsidies. Cause you haven't seen anything yet for prices.

[Pocket]

Originally Posted by ducatirider944

I don't agree with the part in bold. Speaking of arrogant (seeing how your idol is Obama and he has to be the most arrogant dildo we have ever had for a President in history, your statement is fitting) How does a gov't "allow" one to work, when if those people weren't "allowed" to work there wouldn't be any money (aka tax base) for the gov't to exist in the first place? The working people of this nation "allow" the gov't to exist, because if it wasn't for the working there would be no money for the gov't to exist. Now if you made the statement that the gov't "allows" people to not work and still survive, that would be a true statement.

What if we had a communist government?

In a sense, we allow our government to exist. And in return, our government allows us to enjoy the standard of living that we have. It's a 2-way street.

If we had no government, our way of life as we know it now would not exist.

If we had a different type of government, our way of life as we know it now would not exist.

[Binderpower]

Originally Posted by Pocket

What if we had a communist government?

In a sense, we allow our government to exist. And in return, our government allows us to enjoy the standard of living that we have. It's a 2-way street.

If we had no government, our way of life as we know it now would not exist.

If we had a different type of government, our way of life as we know it now would not exist.

but we don't have a communist gov't! Nor will we. You should understand marriage, it is all about give and take. Well our gov't keeps taking end of story.

Why not put back in place what the framers of the constitution intended? Make everyone work for their own stuff, not handed to them.

[AK Gandy]

Originally Posted by Blunder Boy

Gandy, or anyone else, we can all talk as tough as nails with a full belly, but starve for a day, and you will appreciate all farmers.

No one has said that farmers aren't very important.

Just as doctors are very important.

I can grow my own food though, but would find it pretty tough to operate on myself.

I'm still impressed however, at how you were able to give yourself that lobotomy. .


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[PsRumors]

Originally Posted by Binderpower

I would beg to differ. We get the NAPMN (North American Potato Market New Report Weekly). I read it religiously every week. The past three years, we have been short as a whole for the industry. Potato farmers have been receiving a good price for their product. Many of the potato farmers were clearing in excessof $5,000/acre after all cost. The fryers (McCains, Lays, etc, have been demanding everything they can get their hands on). This year, they will be sitting very well.


Most if not all farmers (maybe all but .1% of the 2% of the whole farming population would want to keep farm subsidies, but most would rather do away with them. Raise the price where the product should be and let them farm. I can say without a doubt most of my growers receive nothing of any farm subsidy

History says different. Every time Congress has looked at reducing ag subsidies the industry has turned out in mass to protest.

Originally Posted by Binderpower

All too many like to point fingers, but you plant 10 acres of anything, I dare any of you. Now try and keep that alive and well for 90 plus days so you can get a crop off. Ya you can forward contract or contract it out, but now a crop failure does occur. Now you have to fill that contract with thin air. Crop insurance will kick in, but you are still at a loss looking to fill a contract or you take the penalty and count your losses and look forward to next year.

Crop insurance is SUBSIDIZED. Anyone that has taken a crop insurance payout has been subsidized by the government, plain and simple.

As for your dare, why dont't you try it? It's easy to sit there on the stool in the feed store telling us how difficult it is to farm yet I highly doubt you do it yourself. You just watch others do it.

For your info we raise our on goats, pigs and chickens for milk, eggs and meat. We can most of our vegetables and grow apples. We are a hobby farm and raise for our own family. This past spring/ early summer we put up nearly 10k ears of silver queen corn (cream). I can appreciate what the farmers do but to think they are not heavily subsidized, like most everything else in the US, is down right stupid.

Originally Posted by Binderpower

Gandy, or anyone else, we can all talk as tough as nails with a full belly, but starve for a day, and you will appreciate all farmers.

Go back to manning the counter at the feed store and stop showing your ignorance.