Roberts is a damn liberal

[AK Gandy]

Originally Posted by highlandre

Perhaps I am. My wife who's a staunch Dem. told me that I was advocating Socialism which wasn't my intent. I was more going for the thought that we as a society need to do more to help our own that we're currently doing.

I grew up as a staunch Republican, anti-big government. My father owned his own business which ultimately went under so we were very much about paying as few taxes as possible and keeping what’s ours.
As I've grown older and seen how the world really works (money, period). I've come to the realization we've moved from a democracy to a corporatocracy and that the rules that used to apply no longer do.

Take for example the SCOTUS overturn of the McCain-Feingold Act (BCRA) it’s now become legal for a few billionaires to buy a political seat from a congressman to the POTUS. There is something inherently wrong with a system that allows a few extremely wealthy people decide the fate of a country.

Personally I feel that all political campaigns should be paid for from a pool of public funds. This will ensure that one doesn't win an election based solely on the amount of money they can raise. We can then focus on the candidates and their plans/positions.

There will never be a way to stop the misinformation, the flip-flopping and negativity associated with the aforementioned campaigns. It's just the nature of politics.

Another problem we have right now is that, rather than focus on the economy or on recovery, Congress (mostly, but not all, are Republicans) is more concerned about legislating morality. Congress’ continued legislative attempts to restrict women's reproductive rights, gay rights and dictate religious morality.

Every one of the moral issues I raise above about is derived from religious beliefs. Some are more extreme than others but they are founded in religion.

That is wrong, period.
You have no right to push your religious beliefs on another person just like I don’t have the right to push my “beliefs”, whatever they may be, on you. Those of faith have a right to practice and believe whatever religion they want whether it is Christianity, Islam, Buddhism or Pastafarian. The problem is that they wish to dictate things like whether a woman can take the pill, have an abortion or access the morning after pill. That is no one’s business but the woman and her physician.

If you don't agree with the above medical procedures, that's fine, don't have those procedures. You may be morally opposed to those ideas but there are others of us that view them as acceptable and morally neutral. A fetus is really just a parasite that is feeding off the woman just like a mosquito or a leech. It just happens to have human DNA.

People have gotten upset that, on one hand, the government wants to push healthcare on us to be responsible for our own healthcare and provide for those that don’t/cant; yet, on the other hand, they feel that the government should dictate what medical procedures we can have?

It’s been said that the PPACA will prevent people from getting the treatments they need because of bureaucracy, age or whatever; but then they think it's appropriate for the government to say prevent people from having a medically acceptable treatment such as an abortion, even if her physician and private insurance are willing to perform/pay for it?

You can't have it both ways; the government either stays out of our medical care or it doesn't.

I suppose I could write a paper on my opinions and go more into depth and dusting off my statistics, gather the data but I don't know if this is the right place to discuss this. Or perhaps it is. I'm assuming that I'm in the minority on this site in my viewpoints. I'd love for others to see things thru my eyes. The problem is that no one has had my experiences, nor have I had the experiences of others. These experiences and beliefs are what form us.

I've always said that I have ideas and theories but not beliefs. The reason being is that ideas and theories can morph and change but beliefs, by enlarge, don't. This doesn’t mean I don’t have morals, just that mine are different from yours or anyone else.

As an example, I used to be a member a Presbyterian church and had perfect attendance in Sunday school for 9 straight years. I heard all the stories and memorized the books of the Bible. But, during that time I could never understand how people could believe the teachings. They never made sense to me and I’ve never been one to take things at face value. “The Bible says it’s true so it’s true” is one of the most inane things I’ve ever heard which led me question everything.

I know I spend way too much time reading journal articles and political bills but I’ve gotten to where I refuse to believe anything that either side says and will review the information myself and make form opinion. This leads me to be a much more informed person in an attempt to keep me from being duped, regardless the topic. Obviously not exactly realistic but what’s wrong with setting high goals even if they’re unattainable.

The long and short of it is that whether it’s a tax, as SCOTUS says, or a penalty, as Romney Care says, the fact of the matter is that it will lead more people to have healthcare which can only be a benefit for society. The healthier a population is the happier and more productive they will be. Remember, Life, Liberty and Pursuit of happiness are the ideals that we live by and healthcare for all supports the ideal that Life is the more important than anything else.

I wish as a society that we could at least try and see if the PPACA works before we work to repeal the law. Give it 4 years and if it’s a complete failure then we can always repeal it then. We haven’t even seen it in practice so how can we say it’s a failure? We haven’t given it a chance.

Very well said.


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