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DieselStroke
02-23-2011, 11:50 AM
Ok so here it goes, with the x-gauge people have been able to make x-gauge codes that are not listed by manufacture, this is done through trial and error of the PID from Ford in order to program it in. It would be amazing if we could read FICM without having to rip it apart or purchase AE. However my question is what is the PID of FICM_M?

DieselStroke
02-24-2011, 12:48 PM
Bump, No-one knows the Hex number for the PID? I know the name of the PID, however need the hex number in order to try and write it in scangauge as a monitor.

FICM MPWR PID

DieselStroke
02-25-2011, 04:28 AM
Ok so working with Linear Logic and a little trial and error we were able to pull the below readings from the PCM using the scangauge ii with X-Gauge:

FICM Power (12 Volts)
FICM Logic Power (12 Volts)
FICM Main Power (48 Volts)

I am waiting for a final confirmation from Liner Logic for the math calculations but i am testing this on my truck right now and everything checks out, curious to how many people are interested in the X-Gauge code for the above readings??? I will send a follow up post with confirmation from Linear Logic and possibly the codes if people want them to add to their display

Thanks,

Patrick

jonnysteals
02-25-2011, 12:19 PM
Post them up

DieselStroke
02-25-2011, 12:34 PM
Here is what i have right now, curious to see what other people are getting for readings, waiting for confirmation on Linear Logic on the math but these should be correct!

FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FVP

FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FLP

FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48)
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FMP

Everyone post back if these work for you and if so will see if i can have Linear Logic put in on their website.

DieselStroke
02-25-2011, 08:25 PM
Bump,

Someone else please test these gauges on the x-gauge to confirm if they are also working for you....

Thanks
Patrick

DieselStroke
02-26-2011, 12:49 PM
Well its saturday, someone else please test the above codes today to see what you get!!!

BigDeal21
02-26-2011, 01:00 PM
Mines in the mail. As soon as I get it hooked up next week il try it and let ya know how it works.

DieselStroke
02-26-2011, 02:16 PM
awesome, here is also the VGT Turbo Cycle

VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT

jorlee
02-28-2011, 12:19 PM
Just had time to put in the FICM Main power. Got readings of 48.5, 48.0 47.5, and lowest of 45.5 on a 0-65 run.

I'll try to get the others entered in today, and report back.

JESTERxHEAD
02-28-2011, 06:17 PM
I use the torque app with a bluetooth-OBDII dongle.... works in the same fashion. (A bit more math involved)

I will calc. this out and put the values in and see what I get.

Thanks.....

BigDeal21
03-05-2011, 02:35 PM
I just got mine in the mail last night. I'm going to try to play around with it this weekend and see how it works.

DieselStroke
03-05-2011, 04:07 PM
Let me know how it works, if you have any problems PM me your phone number and i can help you out, once you are done entering everything for the fun of it write down all numbers for me that you are seeing available so i can compare to my readings please.

Thanks,
Patrick

jr4452
03-06-2011, 06:03 AM
Hey guys, I have a ScanGauge II also, have had it a few weeks..... I'm very interested in what you're doing with yours, and I'll start messing more with mine and see if I can come up with something to add to this.

JR:fordoval:

JESTERxHEAD
03-06-2011, 04:15 PM
Here is what i have right now, curious to see what other people are getting for readings, waiting for confirmation on Linear Logic on the math but these should be correct!

FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FVP

FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FLP

FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48)
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FMP

Everyone post back if these work for you and if so will see if i can have Linear Logic put in on their website.


FYI.... the MTH line needs to only be 12 digits. I just took off the last zero.

I think my scaling is off.... I on my torque app...(I know its not a scangage) but if I get it to work with my phone I will post the equation that works.

BigDeal21
03-07-2011, 09:41 PM
I just hooked mine up today. This was well worth the money! Hottest eot was 190 and hottest ect was 185 while driving home today. Ficm was 48 for main power. I haven't tried the turbo gauge yet but should sometime this week. I really think this is the way to go if you’re going to monitor your eot and ect. What shoud my icp readings look like? I know you want less than a 15 degree difference for eot and ect but not too sure on what to look for when it comes to icp reading.

DieselStroke
03-08-2011, 12:23 AM
ICP about 581, IPR about 20-30%, this is at idle, readings should go up together the more fuel goes in the engine. What are all your other gauges reading, wait till you fill up your truck, i set mine up as diesela did u do the same?

BigDeal21
03-08-2011, 09:40 AM
ya diesel a is what I have it set on

Hillz
03-08-2011, 11:03 AM
Subscribed

DieselStroke
03-08-2011, 12:36 PM
Let me know what other readings you are getting from your scangauge, GPH, HP, CPM, MAP, MAT, VGT, MFD. VFD, etc etc

BigDeal21
03-09-2011, 10:04 PM
Truck was plugged in last night and I started it this morning. ICP was 58, IPR 27.4, map was 14.1. I don’t know why but the highest my ICP went up to was around 91 and that was climbing a nice sized hill. I think the scan gauge just shows say 58 when it’s actually 580 because the truck runs fine. I will mess around with it more this week and see if I typed in the ICP directions incorrect when I programmed it. GPH was around 1 or sometimes little less.

DieselStroke
03-10-2011, 03:20 AM
BigDeal

Re-check the mth part of the code for the ICP, this is the multiplier and for pressure it should go up alot, i have seen mine as high as 2000psi injection pressure, map im guessing was at idle, as map minus baro pressure = boost. Did you get EOT and ECT to work already?

jr4452
03-10-2011, 05:32 PM
My EOT and ECT run right around 190 running unloaded. Pulling a hill and and getting my EGT up around 925 brought both EOT and ECT into the high 109's. The biggest spread between my EOT and ECT has been 8 degrees. Normally my EOT is 4 to 6 degrees higher than my ECT.
I'm going to program more of the X-gauge stuff today and let you know what I get.

JR

jr4452
03-10-2011, 05:34 PM
that was 190's not "109's"

Typing not my strong point!

BigDeal21
03-10-2011, 09:22 PM
Yes Eot and Ect are right on point. Highest difference has been 8 degrees. Coolant runs about 182 and oil around 188 normally. I’m going to have to play with the math part for the icp. I figured that’s what was wrong with it. The map reading was also at idle. Trans temp reading was dead on with my glow shift gauge. I was just curious to see how accurate the x gauge would be. IPR is between 20-30s and I have seen high of 41 when climbing a big hill. I put in the fcim codes toady. Main power is steady at 48 and vehicle power for the fcim was around 13 volts. So far I’m really impressed with this unit. I’m going to finish programming it this weekend and start writing down readings when I start it and then once I’m done driving for the day. I drive around 50 miles around trip to work and back so.

DieselStroke
03-10-2011, 09:41 PM
see if your trip works good? I am playing around with mine right now, but the scangauge records mileage slower than the odometer so i will have to tweak that.

BigDeal21
03-10-2011, 10:01 PM
I didn't know the mileage was off. I looked at the trip today and it seemed to be working right. Il take another look at it.

jr4452
03-12-2011, 12:07 AM
Just ran mine after loading the FICM stuff into my Scangauge II. I also loaded the VGT and ICP.
My FICM was at 48.5, 13.5 and 13.5
ICP at idle is around 700psi and at full throttle pulling a grade hit 3,929psi.
VGT at idle is around 80% and at full tilt was around 35%.

Do these numbers sound right to you guys??

JR

BigDeal21
03-12-2011, 12:55 AM
FICM sounds dead on. My icp reading is all jacked up. I need to do some work to correct the math. I have not loaded the vgt yet, once I do I will post my readings.

robs97z28
03-12-2011, 03:35 AM
Just put my sc II in. wow, it is so cool!! I programmed in the ICP, FICM, TFT, EOT, AND THE ECT. I only wish it had an add on function for a EGT..

fcim volt moved from 47 to 48.5 volt
icp 658 psi

Can someone post the info from the VGT pid? I can't find it on the xgauge pids page.

BigDeal21
03-12-2011, 03:51 AM
ya its pretty sweet! I have boost, egt and trans gauge already so this scan gauge worked out great. here is the vgt for ya


VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT

robs97z28
03-12-2011, 03:59 AM
That helps a lot, thank you! :rockwoot:

BigDeal21
03-12-2011, 04:02 AM
Not a problem. Im goin to mess around with mine more this weekend. It's a sweet little device. Where are you guys mounting them? I have mine under the light control on the left side of the dash.I'm thinkin bout ordering the window holder for it though.I dont like it where it is right now.

robs97z28
03-12-2011, 04:24 AM
I going to mount mine in the little pocket just below the heater controls. I can't believe all of the info that this little jem can read.

BigDeal21
03-12-2011, 05:49 AM
ya I think its better then the Edge insight. Alot of guys don't know how good they are.

DieselStroke
03-12-2011, 07:12 AM
i put mine on a universal windshield mount and mounted it right next to the edge juice with attitude (pillar mount)

nos487
03-12-2011, 10:37 AM
This is how I mounted mine.
Amazon.com: BlendMount Designed for ScanGauge II: Automotive

07_powerstroke
03-13-2011, 05:20 AM
Sweet i wana buy one of those how many temp show on the screen? for $160 It sure seems to tell you alot. Will it bring up codes for bad injectors?

BigDeal21
03-13-2011, 01:28 PM
It shows 4 readings at once on the screen. It is a code reader. I can't tell you how great of a reader it is but it is a code reader so.

BigDeal21
03-16-2011, 12:47 AM
ICP reading is fixed and running great.I has some numbers typed in wrong. At idle its around 531 when the truck is cold. This device is sweet!

Hillz
03-16-2011, 10:51 PM
I finally had 15 min. to myself, so I finished programming. I had the EOT programmed in for a while now (EOT & ECT within 5 degrees). My new readings are:
VGT - 64% at idle
FVP - 13.5 volts at idle
FLP - 13.5 volts at idle
FMP - 48.5-49 volts at idle
IPR - 22.5 % at idle
ICP - 580-589 PSI at idle

The VGT sounds a little low compared to your readings. Not sure what that means? I have yet to drive the truck with the new programming.

A big thanx to everyone who figured all this out and posted the results. This little reader is fantastic. Great bang for the buck.

Linear Logic
03-17-2011, 10:33 PM
Hello everyone. I'm one of the engineers that works for Linear Logic (the company that manufactures the ScanGauge) and I'm glad to see everyone is enjoying the FICM xgauge along with the other xgauges available for the 6.0L. I'm curious if anyone in this thread would be interested in helping develop a few additional XGauges for the 6.0L

I have some documents from Ford that list a whole slew of parameters that might be possible on diesels, but to be honest I don't know which ones (if any) would be important to the diesel community, so I was hoping a few people here wouldn't mind taking a look at what I have and providing some feedback. If you all would like I could post a list of all the parameters I have data on, and if any of the parameters seem of interest let me know and I'll code the XGauge up for testing. Can't promise they will work, but it's certainly worth a shot.

Just want to gauge everyone's interest before I just start posting up huge lists and annoying people. Also, if anyone has any questions about the ScanGauge or XGauges feel free to ask.

Thanks,

James DeLong
Linear Logic LLC

BigDeal21
03-17-2011, 11:23 PM
pm sent. I will help out any way I can.

robs97z28
03-18-2011, 12:36 AM
I from these on FTE. I copied and pasted..

Link Some Scangauge II codes for (FICM incl.) - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1049918-some-scangauge-ii-codes-for-xgauge-ficm-incl.html)

Collected from different threads and members. (If you know of more, please feel free to add to list)


FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FVP

FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FLP

FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) (this does work! )
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FMP

Boost ( I'm trying a new boost number, will come back with results later)
686AF1010B
0441850B0000
2808
00910064FF88

VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT

Throttle Position Commanded (Degrees) (Have not seen this one verified)
TXD: 07E022091A
RXF: 04620509061A
RXD: 3010
MTH: 020000010000
NAM: TPC

Engine Oil Temp.
07E0221310
046245130610
3010
00090005F05F (00090005FFD8 was posted on another thread, I used the one out of the Xgauge pdf)
EOT

Trans. Fluid Temp.
07E1221674
046205160674
3010
000100080000
TFT

Horse Power
00
400080000000
0000
000A00240000
HPR

Inj. Control Press.
07E0221446
046205140646
3010
003900640000
ICP

IPR Duty Cycle
07E0221434
046285140634
3008
0DCA03E8000A
IPR %

strokin6L
03-18-2011, 12:45 AM
Can anyone post pics of the scan gauge II mounted in there trucks....preferably a day time pic and a night time pic. Thanks! Also, for anyone who has installed the scan gauge II....do you also have a tuned FICM?

robs97z28
03-18-2011, 12:50 AM
Yup, it fit neatly in the little cubby hole. I have the ficm volt, icp, trans, vgt duty, ipr duty cycle, EOT, ECT, alt volts, and I'm going to try the boost. I just found this one not sure if it will work. I will take a pic now.

robs97z28
03-18-2011, 01:31 AM
Pic is too big to post. Pm me with your email address I will send it to you.

BigDeal21
03-18-2011, 01:53 AM
I will take some pics and post them for you strokin6l

william_04_x
03-18-2011, 01:55 AM
I've had one in my cubby for about 5 years now. Fits perfect.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w272/desertmule/Excursion%20Pics/Countermeasures/81326449.jpg

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 04:08 AM
Hello everyone. I'm one of the engineers that works for Linear Logic (the company that manufactures the ScanGauge) and I'm glad to see everyone is enjoying the FICM xgauge along with the other xgauges available for the 6.0L. I'm curious if anyone in this thread would be interested in helping develop a few additional XGauges for the 6.0L

I have some documents from Ford that list a whole slew of parameters that might be possible on diesels, but to be honest I don't know which ones (if any) would be important to the diesel community, so I was hoping a few people here wouldn't mind taking a look at what I have and providing some feedback. If you all would like I could post a list of all the parameters I have data on, and if any of the parameters seem of interest let me know and I'll code the XGauge up for testing. Can't promise they will work, but it's certainly worth a shot.

Just want to gauge everyone's interest before I just start posting up huge lists and annoying people. Also, if anyone has any questions about the ScanGauge or XGauges feel free to ask.

Thanks,

James DeLong
Linear Logic LLC

James,
Please go ahead and post these up, i have emailed you several times before regarding the FICM and we got it to work properly and confirmed among a few other members, so please post anything else new that you have
Thanks

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 04:54 AM
Here is my setup, sorry only night pic, Edge Juice with Attitude Pillar mount with a modified Universal GPS mount that now holds the Scangauge II.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i337/Dieselstroke/EdgeScangauge.jpg

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 05:27 AM
Here are some other gauges that i would like to see:

Throttle Position Sensor (The one on the website does not work)
EGR Valve (Open or closed, the one on the website does not work)
Crankshaft Position Sensor
Camshaft Position Sensor
IA2 Sensor

Im sure there are a bunch more, just cant think of them right now..


I cant figure out what More > More > CMDS does, something about entering commands to be sent to the vehicle? Does anyone have any idea what commands and what they do... possibly even have a command?

8lug
03-18-2011, 06:14 AM
:postwhore2: I would like to have oil pressure readings.

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 10:54 AM
Blug,
We are able to see ICP for the HPOP High Oil pressure, do you need this code?

strokin6L
03-18-2011, 01:15 PM
So i'm assuming the scan gauge stays plugged into the OBDII port right?

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 02:50 PM
Correct, it draws very very little power and that is only to keep the memory, the scangauge auto powers on and off depending if the truck is running or not.

jonnysteals
03-18-2011, 04:16 PM
Correct, it draws very very little power and that is only to keep the memory, the scangauge auto powers on and off depending if the truck is running or not.

Uses flash memory so it shouldn't use any power when off.

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 04:22 PM
I thought it did use a little maybe not.

Linear Logic
03-18-2011, 05:00 PM
Here are some other gauges that i would like to see:
I've gone through and created as many XGauges as I could from the data I have. I tried to put the XGauges I felt had the best chances of working at the top of each section. I also put notes where I could to give as much information as possible about each XGauge. Unfortunately the documents I'm working from give me very little in terms of actual descriptions of the sensors. Try them all if you can and let me know what your results are.


Throttle Position Sensor (The one on the website does not work)

Throttle Position 1 (Volts)
TXD: 07E0220917
RXF: 046245090617
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064040000000
NAM: TP1
Note: Voltage of the ETC Throttle Position Sensor number 1

Throttle Position 2 (Volts)
TXD: 07E0220918
RXF: 046245090618
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064040000000
NAM: TP2
Note: Voltage of the ETC Throttle Position Sensor number 2

Throttle Position Desired (Degrees)
TXD: 07E022091A
RXF: 04624509061A
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064020000000
NAM: TPD
Note: ETC Commanded Throttle Angle, in degrees.

Throttle Position Actual (Degrees)
TXD: 07E022093C
RXF: 04624509063C
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064020000000
NAM: TPA
Note: The measured throttle angle from the throttle sensor inputs.


EGR Valve (Open or closed, the one on the website does not work)


EGR Duty Cycle (Percent)
TXD: 07E022166E
RXF: 04620516066E
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006440000000
NAM: EGR

EGR Throttle Position Control Signal
TXD: 07E022096C
RXF: 04620509066C
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: ETP

EGR Valve Position (mm)
TXD: 07E022096A
RXF: 04620509066A
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: EVP
Note: EGR Valve Position in hundredths of a millimeter, where 0 mm indicates a closed EGR valve position.

EGR Valve Position Desired (%)
TXD: 07E02209D2
RXF: 0462050906D2
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: EVD

EGR Valve Position Measured (%)
TXD: 07E02209FE
RXF: 0462050906FE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: EVM
Note: MEASURED (or sensed) EGR Valve Position, in percent, where a low value indicates a closed EGR valve (no EGR flow) and a high value indicates an open EGR valve.

EGR Valve Position (Volts 0-5)
TXD: 07E022167E
RXF: 04620516067E
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: EGV


Crankshaft Position Sensor
Camshaft Position Sensor


Camshaft & Crankshaft in sync (1 = in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3000
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

Camshaft & Crankshaft in sync (1 = in sync) (Alternate)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3001
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC


IA2 Sensor

Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)
TXD: 07E02216A8
RXF: 0462051606A8
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: IA2


I cant figure out what More > More > CMDS does, something about entering commands to be sent to the vehicle? Does anyone have any idea what commands and what they do... possibly even have a command?
The CMNDS feature is pretty much an early version of XGauge. It allows you to create a signal you want to transmit to the ECU, and it will then display a response if it got anything back. The XGauge feature is pretty much better in almost every way, although it's easier to use the CMNDS feature to determine which emissions tests have passed on your vehicle. You can find a nice walk through on how to do that here: Finding Incomplete OBDII Tests Using the ScanGauge (http://www.scangauge.com/support/OBDIITestStatus.shtml)

Linear Logic
03-18-2011, 05:04 PM
Uses flash memory so it shouldn't use any power when off.
It draws about 1-2mA when powered down to run a few small processes. There's a clock that's running to determine when to shift the data from 'Todays Trips' to 'Previous Days' trips, and a few other things that I can't quite recall at the moment.

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 09:49 PM
It draws about 1-2mA when powered down to run a few small processes. There's a clock that's running to determine when to shift the data from 'Todays Trips' to 'Previous Days' trips, and a few other things that I can't quite recall at the moment.

I knew it hahaha thanks i will try these codes tonight how about you bigdeal? You putting the codes in later on?

James,
I do have another question, i am having issues with the readings for miles traveled (trip reading) between what the Scangauge is stating and what my dash is stating, i had to set my speed to 34 and still at times have to set it to 35 for it to catch up and read properly again? Is there something i can do to not have to do this? I confirmed the reading in the dash is correct, the scangauge is just not calculating it properly and at times even seems slow like it skips a second or 3 of updating?

Linear Logic
03-18-2011, 10:34 PM
James,
I do have another question, i am having issues with the readings for miles traveled (trip reading) between what the Scangauge is stating and what my dash is stating, i had to set my speed to 34 and still at times have to set it to 35 for it to catch up and read properly again? Is there something i can do to not have to do this? I confirmed the reading in the dash is correct, the scangauge is just not calculating it properly and at times even seems slow like it skips a second or 3 of updating?
You can try setting the update rate to fast. It will provide the ScanGauge with more data to work with to calculate the MPH average, which will in turn provide a better distance traveled reading. However there's only so much that can be done really. The MPH reading from the OBDII port is not the finest resolution, so if you're driving 52.4 MPH the OBDII port still just reports 52 - so error is introduced there.

Either way, setting the update rate to fast should help.

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 11:10 PM
You can try setting the update rate to fast. It will provide the ScanGauge with more data to work with to calculate the MPH average, which will in turn provide a better distance traveled reading. However there's only so much that can be done really. The MPH reading from the OBDII port is not the finest resolution, so if you're driving 52.4 MPH the OBDII port still just reports 52 - so error is introduced there.

Either way, setting the update rate to fast should help.

James,
Ok, i will try this, are there any other x-gauges listed out of curiosity for these trucks, if you have anything else you want me to try out let me know?

Thanks,
Patrick

DieselStroke
03-18-2011, 11:38 PM
James,
Also is there a way to get rid of the factory gauges that do not work on our trucks, for example FPR so we do not have to scroll through them when we change gauges? Just curious.

DieselStroke
03-19-2011, 12:54 AM
Out of curiousity can we set the x-gauge up to see the readings for cylinder contribution on all 8 cylinders? This should be possible as the factory can do cylinder contribution test to tell you how much psi each cylinder has, also are there any x-gauges for injector sensors? Curious now :)

BigDeal21
03-19-2011, 11:43 AM
Truck got washed and is sitting in the garage waiting to be waxed this weekend! Il throw these gauges on monday morning and let you guys know how there coming along.

npccpartsman
03-19-2011, 01:15 PM
I'd like to have an XGauge to monitor engine fan speed/function if one of you guys can work it up. I sent the guy from Linear Logic a PM to see if he can get me one. I have an 04 that uses CAN not PWM

8lug
03-20-2011, 02:25 AM
Blug,
We are able to see ICP for the HPOP High Oil pressure, do you need this code?

:poke: I have this code but did not know it was actually showing HPOP pressure. :doh: I'll have to program this in and check it out thanks. So there is no code for the low side oil pressure ?? :peeman:

DieselStroke
03-20-2011, 02:31 AM
My guess is not, i have tested some of the above codes,

The Crank and Camshaft does not work for me, i have been able to get the EGR code to work, the TPS sensor codes do not work for me. IA2 is also successful. So James what other codes do you have for us to try?

RocknRoll
03-20-2011, 02:40 AM
Sweet thread!, just got my SG2 today so this was perfect timing. Here are my values I saw at idle;

FMP 47.5-48.0
FVP 12.5
FLP 12.5
ICP 584


These were all at idle just after refueling, looks about right doesn't it??
This scangauge is absolutely worth every penny. It's so simple its ridiculous....

DieselStroke
03-20-2011, 04:15 AM
These are all reading good, now what is your IPR and all other values?

DieselStroke
03-20-2011, 04:47 AM
OK so here is a complete list of all codes, lets see if it will let me copy and paste, i will add more codes as we go along, can this maybe even be made a sticky like the bible but for SG2 codes? Below codes have all been confirmed through my truck, if there are any issues or if i am missing anything let me know.


FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FVP

FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FLP

FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48)
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FMP

VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT

Engine Oil Temp.
TXD: 07E0221310
RXF: 046245130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00090005F05F ( Use this if the EOT is not reading right 00090005FFD8)
NAM: EOT

Trans. Fluid Temp.
TXD: 07E1221674
RXF: 046205160674
RXD: 3010
MTH:000100080000
NAM: TFT

Horse Power
TXD: 00
RXF: 400080000000
RXD: 0000
MTH: 000A00240000
NAM: HPR

Inj. Control Press.
TXD: 07E0221446
RXF: 046205140646
RXD: 3010
MTH: 003900640000
NAM: ICP

IPR Duty Cycle
TXD: 07E0221434
RXF: 046285140634
RXD: 3008
MTH: 0DCA03E8000A
NAM: IPR %

Boost (Untested)
TXD: 686AF1010B
RXF: 0441850B0000
RXD: 2808
MTH: 00910064FF88
NAM: BST

EGR Duty Cycle (Percent)
TXD: 07E022166E
RXF: 04620516066E
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006440000000
NAM: EGR

Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)
TXD: 07E02216A8
RXF: 0462051606A8
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: IA2

Exhaust Back Pressure
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: EBP

Fuel Level
TXD: 007E02216C1
RXF: 0462451606C1
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000101480000
NAM: FL

Mass Fuel Desired
TXD: 07E0221412
RXF: 046245140612
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006400100000
NAM: MFD

Volume Fuel Desired
TXD: 07E0221411
RXF: 046245140611
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006400100000
NAM: VFD

Engine Run Time
TXD: 07DF011F
RXF: 0441051F
RXD: 2810
MTH: 0001003C0000
NAM: ERT (Minutes)

npccpartsman
03-20-2011, 10:33 AM
The Boost doesn't work on my 04....To be in Ford CAN I was told the TXD must start with 07E022

Not sure about the engine run time.

DieselStroke
03-21-2011, 01:07 AM
engine run time works in my 04

CLAC
03-21-2011, 01:33 AM
I take you all Like the ScanguageII. I'm getting me one soon.

robs97z28
03-21-2011, 02:18 AM
a lot of great info. This should become a sticky of SG2 codes!! I'm going to plug in a few more of the new codes.

Linear Logic
03-21-2011, 09:14 PM
James,
Also is there a way to get rid of the factory gauges that do not work on our trucks, for example FPR so we do not have to scroll through them when we change gauges? Just curious.
Unfortunately not at the moment. We have considered just removing FPR specifically because it's rarely reported and just providing the info to create an FPR xgauge if the user really wanted to try. For right now though, you'll just have to skip them.

Out of curiousity can we set the x-gauge up to see the readings for cylinder contribution on all 8 cylinders? This should be possible as the factory can do cylinder contribution test to tell you how much psi each cylinder has, also are there any x-gauges for injector sensors? Curious now :)For cylinder contribution I don't have anything really. The cylinder related parameters I have documentation on are regarding the spark duration time per cylinder and misfire counts for each individual cylinder. I'll keep an eye out for cylinder contribution though. With regard to injectors I have data on Injector Timing (Degrees before top dead center), Injector Commanded On (seems like a simple on/off value based on if the ECU wants the injector on or off), and Injector pulse width. If you think you might be able to use any of those let me know and I'll code them up.

I'd like to have an XGauge to monitor engine fan speed/function if one of you guys can work it up. I sent the guy from Linear Logic a PM to see if he can get me one. I have an 04 that uses CAN not PWMTry this out

Fan Speed Sensor (RPM)
TXD: 07E022099F
RXF: 04620509069F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100040000
NAM: FSS

The Boost doesn't work on my 04....To be in Ford CAN I was told the TXD must start with 07E022

Not sure if this will work, but it's possibly Ford's special version of Manifold Absolute Pressure, which if it works - I can adjust into boost for you.

Manifold Absolute Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: PSI

Try plugging that in and seeing if you get a reading from it. If it does, we can get it ironed out into a nice boost reading.

robs97z28
03-21-2011, 09:19 PM
I will try it tonight when I get home..

DieselStroke
03-22-2011, 02:02 AM
Unfortunately not at the moment. We have considered just removing FPR specifically because it's rarely reported and just providing the info to create an FPR xgauge if the user really wanted to try. For right now though, you'll just have to skip them.

For cylinder contribution I don't have anything really. The cylinder related parameters I have documentation on are regarding the spark duration time per cylinder and misfire counts for each individual cylinder. I'll keep an eye out for cylinder contribution though. With regard to injectors I have data on Injector Timing (Degrees before top dead center), Injector Commanded On (seems like a simple on/off value based on if the ECU wants the injector on or off), and Injector pulse width. If you think you might be able to use any of those let me know and I'll code them up.

Try this out

Fan Speed Sensor (RPM)
TXD: 07E022099F
RXF: 04620509069F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100040000
NAM: FSS



Not sure if this will work, but it's possibly Ford's special version of Manifold Absolute Pressure, which if it works - I can adjust into boost for you.

Manifold Absolute Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: PSI

Try plugging that in and seeing if you get a reading from it. If it does, we can get it ironed out into a nice boost reading.

James,
I will try out the fan speed sensor and add to our giant list of codes, the MAP sensor i believe is a stock sensor in the gauge, however having it as an x-gauge allows you to subtract barometric pressure (generally 16), however when not boosting it will display negative on the gauge.

Go ahead and give me any codes that you may have for the injectors, i am always happy to try out new things. Please let me know if you have any other gauges for our trucks that may be potentially useful, we are happy to try anything you throw at us.

Thanks,
Patrick

BigDeal21
03-22-2011, 02:34 AM
I will be trying code 2morrow. Sorry guys been driving the wife Nissan Rogue with the price of diesel and having it in the garage to be waxed!

DieselStroke
03-23-2011, 12:57 AM
I will try these codes tonight or early tomorrow morning and see what i can find, does anyone else think of a gauge they would like to monitor? He is working on an injector misfire count right now that should tell us if there is an injector that is performing worse than the average!

BigDeal21
03-23-2011, 01:13 AM
Fuel pressure. If James could get the fuel pressure these things would sell like hot cakes. It has every other gauge you could ever need.

DieselStroke
03-23-2011, 02:44 AM
Unfortunetly fuel pressure is not a monitored point on these trucks so the OBD-II port will not be able to pull it, only way to get fuel pressure is to buy a fuel pressure gauge.

jonnysteals
03-23-2011, 02:14 PM
I will try these codes tonight or early tomorrow morning and see what i can find, does anyone else think of a gauge they would like to monitor? He is working on an injector misfire count right now that should tell us if there is an injector that is performing worse than the average!

This sounds promising. Hopefully this works out

CLAC
03-23-2011, 03:05 PM
I take you all Like the ScanguageII. I'm getting me one soon.

GOT MINE TODAY:redspotdance:

Linear Logic
03-23-2011, 05:20 PM
James,
The MAP sensor i believe is a stock sensor in the gauge, however having it as an x-gauge allows you to subtract barometric pressure (generally 16), however when not boosting it will display negative on the gauge.
Yea, MAP is a standard gauge - but this XGauge is actually better than the standard one. It has a larger range which was needed because the standard gauge tops out around 37 psi absolute (about 22 lbs of boost), which diesels have no problem doing. This one should read well beyond 22lbs of boost.

Manifold Absolute Pressure
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: PSI

With a little tweaking you can adjust this to read boost as you said.

To do this, just plug in the MAP code - get a reading from it with the key in the on position but the engine off, then based on the reading changed the last 4 digits of the MTH to whatever corresponds to your reading on this table

14.0 -- FF74
14.1 -- FF73
14.2 -- FF72
14.3 -- FF71
14.4 -- FF70
14.5 -- FF6F
14.6 -- FF6E
14.7 -- FF6D
14.8 -- FF6C
14.9 -- FF6B
15.0 -- FF6A

So, for example if you got a reading of 14.5 PSI with key on engine off you'd change the MTH to 01220320FF6F and the reading should read 0.0 with key on engine off and would then show how many lbs of boost you were at when the vehicle is running.


Go ahead and give me any codes that you may have for the injectors, i am always happy to try out new things. Please let me know if you have any other gauges for our trucks that may be potentially useful, we are happy to try anything you throw at us.

Thanks,
Patrick

Here's what I have for injectors

Injector Timing Before Top Dead Center (Degrees)
TXD: 07E02209CC
RXF: 0462850906CC
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000A00400000
NAM: ITM

Fuel Injector Pulse Width (microseconds)
TXD: 07E0221410
RXF: 046205140610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000800010000
NAM: FPW

Fuel Injector #1 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3001
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI1

Fuel Injector #2 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3101
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI2

Fuel Injector #3 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3201
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI3

Fuel Injector #4 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3301
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI4

Fuel Injector #5 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3401
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI5

Fuel Injector #6 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3501
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI6

Fuel Injector #7 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3601
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI7

Fuel Injector #8 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI8

He is working on an injector misfire count right now that should tell us if there is an injector that is performing worse than the average!

Here's what I have for misfire counts.

Cylinder #1 cumulative misfires
TXD: 07E022160E
RXF: 04620516060E
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: 1CM

Cylinder #2 cumulative misfires
TXD: 07E022160F
RXF: 04620516060F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: 2CM

Cylinder #3 cumulative misfires
TXD: 07E0221610
RXF: 046205160610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: 3CM

Cylinder #4 cumulative misfires
TXD: 07E0221611
RXF: 046205160611
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: 4CM

Cylinder #5 cumulative misfires
TXD: 07E0221612
RXF: 046205160612
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: 5CM

Cylinder #6 cumulative misfires
TXD: 07E0221613
RXF: 046205160613
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: 6CM

Cylinder #7 cumulative misfires
TXD: 07E0221614
RXF: 046205160614
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: 7CM

Cylinder #8 cumulative misfires
TXD: 07E0221615
RXF: 046205160615
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: 8CM

RocknRoll
03-23-2011, 06:42 PM
I will try these codes tonight or early tomorrow morning and see what i can find, does anyone else think of a gauge they would like to monitor? He is working on an injector misfire count right now that should tell us if there is an injector that is performing worse than the average!

This also would be something of interest, amongst all these files, you could pretty much totally diagnose any problematic areas of the 6.0 with this scangauge. Other than fuel pressure, all these files are great to have/monitor!!!:D

jonnysteals
03-23-2011, 07:56 PM
Where you guys buying your scan gauge at?

robs97z28
03-23-2011, 08:19 PM
Overstock. 152.50

DieselStroke
03-23-2011, 10:14 PM
autozone $159 free shipping.

jr4452
03-24-2011, 12:00 AM
Got mine at Autozone

BigDeal21
03-24-2011, 12:12 AM
Ya I got mine from Autozone as well.

amdriven2liv
03-24-2011, 12:19 AM
Yea, MAP is a standard gauge - but this XGauge is actually better than the standard one. It has a larger range which was needed because the standard gauge tops out around 37 psi absolute (about 22 lbs of boost), which diesels have no problem doing. This one should read well beyond 22lbs of boost.

Manifold Absolute Pressure
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: PSI

With a little tweaking you can adjust this to read boost as you said.

To do this, just plug in the MAP code - get a reading from it with the key in the on position but the engine off, then based on the reading changed the last 4 digits of the MTH to whatever corresponds to your reading on this table

14.0 -- FF74
14.1 -- FF73
14.2 -- FF72
14.3 -- FF71
14.4 -- FF70
14.5 -- FF6F
14.6 -- FF6E
14.7 -- FF6D
14.8 -- FF6C
14.9 -- FF6B
15.0 -- FF6A

So, for example if you got a reading of 14.5 PSI with key on engine off you'd change the MTH to 01220320FF6F and the reading should read 0.0 with key on engine off and would then show how many lbs of boost you were at when the vehicle is running.




Fuel Injector #1 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3001
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI1

Fuel Injector #2 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3101
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI2

Fuel Injector #3 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3201
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI3

Fuel Injector #4 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3301
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI4

Fuel Injector #5 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3401
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI5

Fuel Injector #6 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3501
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI6

Fuel Injector #7 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3601
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI7

Fuel Injector #8 Commanded on (On/0ff)
TXD: 07E02209EF
RXF: 0462250906EF
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FI8

James, I did tweak the MAP and it does read 0.0 koeo. In the morning I will test it as a boost gauge.

As for the above injector codes. Are the ON/OFF a command that acts like a buzz test? I haven't seen an ON/OFF gauge yet.

Also, the Fan Speed sensor on my 04 reads with a decimal in it. I'll double check the entries. but am sure I got them in as posted.

Camshaft doesn't read any thing. neither one of them.

Thanks

amdriven2liv
03-24-2011, 12:30 AM
These are PIDs I would like to have: (I have a lot of these already) These were recommended by a Diesel tech. ("checks" we have, "?" marks needed)

1 eot check

2 ect=check

3 tft=check

4 ebpa=check

5 mgp=check

6 map=check

7 baro=check

8 icp pressure=check

9 ipr%=check

10 icpv=?

11 gear=?

12 rpm=check

13 vss=?

14 map=check

15 app%=?

16 dtccnt=?

17 ficm m pwr=check

18 sync=?

19 ficm sync=check

20 mass fuel=?

21 runtime=check

22 load=check

23 b+ =?

24 vref=?

CLAC
03-24-2011, 01:49 AM
Where you guys buying your scan gauge at?

I got mine from Camping World RV. I do business with them in parts and got mine for whole sale $121.15

Linear Logic
03-24-2011, 05:21 PM
These are PIDs I would like to have: (I have a lot of these already) These were recommended by a Diesel tech. ("checks" we have, "?" marks needed)

1 eot check

2 ect=check

3 tft=check

4 ebpa=check

5 mgp=check

6 map=check

7 baro=check

8 icp pressure=check

9 ipr%=check

10 icpv=?

11 gear=?

12 rpm=check

13 vss=?

14 map=check

15 app%=?

16 dtccnt=?

17 ficm m pwr=check

18 sync=?

19 ficm sync=check

20 mass fuel=?

21 runtime=check

22 load=check

23 b+ =?

24 vref=?

ICP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV

Gear
TXD: 07E12211B3
RXF: 0462051106B3
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: GER

Vehicle Speed Sensor (MPH)
TXD: 07E02211C1
RXF: 0462051106C1
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000102000000
NAM: VSS

Accelerator Pedal Position (%)
TXD: 07E02209D4
RXF: 0462050906D4
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100020000
NAM: AP%

DTC Count
TXD: 07E0220200
RXF: 046205020600
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: DTC

Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

Mass Fuel Desired (in milligrams perstroke)
TXD: 07E0221412
RXF: 046205140612
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100100000
NAM: MFD

VREF (My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input)
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI

Try those out, that should cover most of your list. Couldn't find anything on b+ though. Could you give me a description of what that sensor is reading? I might be able to figure it out with a little extra info.

gawain33
03-24-2011, 06:48 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?unltw7s4pjv0gbm
Here is an Excel file with all the Xgauge codes I could find (two worksheets). One worksheet is an easy to read compilation (sheet 1) and the other worksheet uses rows to sort each gauge in alphabetical order (sheet 1(2)).

I bought my 2005 F250 Lariat with 109,000 miles on it Monday, had new tires installed and ordered and received my Scan Gauge yesterday, then put this excel file together and decided to share it today.

This truck replaced my 2006 F150 gasser which was used to pull my 33 foot Jayflight travel trailer (29FBS).

Oh, and greetings from East Tennessee (Bristol, TN).

Craig

ps. I'd be happy to export this file into and open office spreadsheet for members without access to MS Excel. Please let me know.

amdriven2liv
03-24-2011, 09:59 PM
ICP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV

Gear
TXD: 07E12211B3
RXF: 0462051106B3
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: GER

Vehicle Speed Sensor (MPH)
TXD: 07E02211C1
RXF: 0462051106C1
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000102000000
NAM: VSS

Accelerator Pedal Position (%)
TXD: 07E02209D4
RXF: 0462050906D4
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100020000
NAM: AP%

DTC Count
TXD: 07E0220200
RXF: 046205020600
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: DTC

Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

Mass Fuel Desired (in milligrams perstroke)
TXD: 07E0221412
RXF: 046205140612
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100100000
NAM: MFD

VREF (My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input)
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI

Try those out, that should cover most of your list. Couldn't find anything on b+ though. Could you give me a description of what that sensor is reading? I might be able to figure it out with a little extra info.

Thank you so very much!

I will find out what that was. b+

amdriven2liv
03-24-2011, 10:31 PM
James,

b+ is battery Voltage.

Thank you very much for all these gauges.

Now can you put a small key board on the SCII so I can scroll quicker? LOL

Just kidding!

BigDeal21
03-24-2011, 10:34 PM
VGT reading was around 57 today. Does that sound right to you guys?

Linear Logic
03-24-2011, 10:53 PM
James,

b+ is battery Voltage.

Thank you very much for all these gauges.

Now can you put a small key board on the SCII so I can scroll quicker? LOL

Just kidding!
Ah, b+ = Battery Voltage, I'm sad I didn't figure that out haha.

Anyway, here it is:

Battery Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E0221172
RXF: 046205110672
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100100000
NAM: BAT

amdriven2liv
03-24-2011, 11:14 PM
Ah, b+ = Battery Voltage, I'm sad I didn't figure that out haha.

Anyway, here it is:

Battery Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E0221172
RXF: 046205110672
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100100000
NAM: BAT

Thank you so much James!

npccpartsman
03-26-2011, 02:55 PM
Yea, MAP is a standard gauge - but this XGauge is actually better than the standard one. It has a larger range which was needed because the standard gauge tops out around 37 psi absolute (about 22 lbs of boost), which diesels have no problem doing. This one should read well beyond 22lbs of boost.

Manifold Absolute Pressure
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: PSI

With a little tweaking you can adjust this to read boost as you said.

To do this, just plug in the MAP code - get a reading from it with the key in the on position but the engine off, then based on the reading changed the last 4 digits of the MTH to whatever corresponds to your reading on this table

14.0 -- FF74
14.1 -- FF73
14.2 -- FF72
14.3 -- FF71
14.4 -- FF70
14.5 -- FF6F
14.6 -- FF6E
14.7 -- FF6D
14.8 -- FF6C
14.9 -- FF6B
15.0 -- FF6A

So, for example if you got a reading of 14.5 PSI with key on engine off you'd change the MTH to 01220320FF6F and the reading should read 0.0 with key on engine off and would then show how many lbs of boost you were at when the vehicle is running.



My EBP and MAP read slightly different KOEO (EBP 15.0 MAP 14.5) Should I be able to use the same MTH in both to make them read identically? I'm having a little trouble with the MTH field values or I'd be doing these myself.

Also, I'm wondering why you used the value 000100040000 in the FSS (fan) MTH instead of 000100010000?

jonnysteals
03-26-2011, 05:15 PM
I have a stupid question. Since you can monitor cylinder misfires but only have four gauges that you can see does this mean that you can only count four cylinder misfires at once. Or does it mean that the other non visible cylinders misfires count will work even when not displayed. I am purchasing one soon

RocknRoll
03-27-2011, 01:30 AM
I have a stupid question. Since you can monitor cylinder misfires but only have four gauges that you can see does this mean that you can only count four cylinder misfires at once. Or does it mean that the other non visible cylinders misfires count will work even when not displayed. I am purchasing one soon

Good question, im curious as well!?

Linear Logic
03-28-2011, 05:52 PM
My EBP and MAP read slightly different KOEO (EBP 15.0 MAP 14.5) Should I be able to use the same MTH in both to make them read identically? I'm having a little trouble with the MTH field values or I'd be doing these myself.

Also, I'm wondering why you used the value 000100040000 in the FSS (fan) MTH instead of 000100010000?

Yea, you can use the last 4 digits of the MTH to bias any XGauge. I've adjusted the MTH in the EBP down 0.5 PSI, so it should match your MAP with KOEO.

Exhaust Back Pressure (-0.5 PSI bias)
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D0050FFFB
NAM: EBP

With regard to the fan speed, I used 000100040000 instead of 000100010000 because the raw data that was being sent is 4x the real value. The 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th digit of the MTH control how much the incoming data is divided by, so 0004 will divide by 4.

I have a stupid question. Since you can monitor cylinder misfires but only have four gauges that you can see does this mean that you can only count four cylinder misfires at once. Or does it mean that the other non visible cylinders misfires count will work even when not displayed. I am purchasing one soon
Based on the data I have for the misfire XGauges it's reporting how many misfires have occurred in that specific cylinder for all time. That means if you know that cylinder x has y number of misfires when you first view the XGauge, then if you no longer use the XGauge for a while then pull it back up and it's y + 50 misfires you know you've had 50 misfires in that cylinder since you last looked at it.

amdriven2liv
03-28-2011, 06:12 PM
James, about the injector codes with the on/off toggle, how do those work?

Here are the Xgauges I now have entered in my Scangauge II. Going for a drive later to video the gauges in action. The ScII reads x gauges from #24 to #0

Accelerator Pedal Position (%)
TXD: 07E02209D4
RXF: 0462050906D4
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100020000
NAM: AP%

Boost
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: BST

With a little tweaking you can adjust this to read boost as you said.

To do this, just plug in the MAP code - get a reading from it with the key in the on position but the engine off, then based on the reading changed the last 4 digits of the MTH to whatever corresponds to your reading on this table

14.0 -- FF74 (I USE THE "FF71" FOR MY AREA, IT WORKS GREAT)
14.1 -- FF73
14.2 -- FF72
14.3 -- FF71
14.4 -- FF70
14.5 -- FF6F
14.6 -- FF6E
14.7 -- FF6D
14.8 -- FF6C
14.9 -- FF6B
15.0 -- FF6A

VREF (My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input, comment by James )
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI

EBP
Exhaust Back Pressure
07E0221445
046285140645
3010
001D00500000
EBP

Engine Oil Temp.
07E0221310
046245130610
3010
00090005F05F
EOT

FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FLP

FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) (this does work! )
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FMP

FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FVP

Fan Speed Sensor (RPM) (THIS ONE IS WORKING AS "RPMS" NOW)
TXD: 07E022099F
RXF: 04620509069F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100040000
NAM: FSS

Gear
TXD: 07E12211B3
RXF: 0462051106B3
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: GER

IA2 Sensor (STOCK GAUGE IS "f*AT" AND READS 10-13 DEGREES LOWER THAN THIS IA2 GAUGE)
Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)
TXD: 07E02216A8
RXF: 0462051606A8
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: IA2

Inj. Control Press.
07E0221446
046205140646
3010
003900640000
ICP

ICP Voltage (Volts) (THIS ONE ISN'T WORKING ON MINE YET, NOT SURE WHY!)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV

IPR Duty Cycle
07E0221434
046285140634
3008
0DCA03E8000A
IPR %

Mass Fuel Desired (in milligrams perstroke)
TXD: 07E0221412
RXF: 046205140612
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100100000
NAM: MFD

Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync) (NOT SURE WHAT THIS ONE DOES, BUT CHEEZIT SUGGESTED IT.)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

Trans. Fluid Temp.
07E1221674
046205160674
3010
000100080000
TFT

VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT

amdriven2liv
03-28-2011, 10:27 PM
Video of the above X-gauges working on a Scangauge II live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfePhk0d9zM

CLAC
03-29-2011, 02:14 AM
Hello everyone. I'm one of the engineers that works for Linear Logic (the company that manufactures the ScanGauge) and I'm glad to see everyone is enjoying the FICM xgauge along with the other xgauges available for the 6.0L. I'm curious if anyone in this thread would be interested in helping develop a few additional XGauges for the 6.0L

I have some documents from Ford that list a whole slew of parameters that might be possible on diesels, but to be honest I don't know which ones (if any) would be important to the diesel community, so I was hoping a few people here wouldn't mind taking a look at what I have and providing some feedback. If you all would like I could post a list of all the parameters I have data on, and if any of the parameters seem of interest let me know and I'll code the XGauge up for testing. Can't promise they will work, but it's certainly worth a shot.

Just want to gauge everyone's interest before I just start posting up huge lists and annoying people. Also, if anyone has any questions about the ScanGauge or XGauges feel free to ask.

Thanks,

James DeLong
Linear Logic LLC

James,
I just got mine recently and haven't hade time to do more than the basic set up. For starters were can we learn to start all these extra programing. Of note the manual needs an index and a good word definiton section. So far I like it. Looks as if this thread is going to be very helpfull.
Curt

DieselStroke
03-29-2011, 03:02 AM
Video of the above X-gauges working on a Scangauge II live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfePhk0d9zM

Nice Video, all readings look pretty good to mine, what is GER my the way? And were the WOT above 3k rpm? Just curious.

FYI i was not able to get the cyclinder misfire to work properly, i assume every cylinder has a misfire, especially when you start one of these trucks up cold without being plugged in, however i am just getting a reading of 0, any thoughts to this James? Also James let us know if there is anything else that you have for our trucks, i love to toy around and try out new gauges!

Thanks,
Patrick

amdriven2liv
03-29-2011, 03:11 AM
It is very easy to enter these codes.

Go to page 24 of this manual:

http://www.scangauge.com/support/pdfs/SGMan5_1.pdf

I'll show you this:

Engine Oil Temp.
07E0221310
046245130610
3010
00090005F05F
EOT

MORE>MORE>MORE>XGAUGE>EDIT
If the memory is currently empty, you will see the following display:

+
- TXD OK>

in here enter:

07E0221310

after entering that # push OK

The next screen pops up: RXF

+000000000000
- RXF OK>

In this box you enter:

046245130610 Then hit OK

Then this screen pops up:

+0000
- RXD OK>

Then you will enter:

3010 Then hit OK

Then this screen pops up:

+000000000000
- MTH OK>

You then enter:

00090005F05F Then hit OK

Then this screen pops up:

+
- NAME OK>

Then you enter EOT Hit OK

Then this screen pops up:

< XGAUGE AAA 0 >
<CANCEL SAVE>

Hit save and you have entered the first gauge into position #0


Just so you know, SC II reads the Xgauges in descending order from #24 to #0.

I'm sorry that I haven't been putting TXD RFX RXD MTH NAME in each of the codes I've been listing. Know that when you see:

07E0221310 ------ TXD
046245130610 ----RFX
3010----------------RXD
00090005F05F -----MTH
EOT ----------------Name

You will enter just as they are listed.

You can refer to the above manual for more info.

Have fun!

DieselStroke
03-29-2011, 03:12 AM
Nice Video, all readings look pretty good to mine, what is GER my the way? And were the WOT above 3k rpm? Just curious.

FYI i was not able to get the cyclinder misfire to work properly, i assume every cylinder has a misfire, especially when you start one of these trucks up cold without being plugged in, however i am just getting a reading of 0, any thoughts to this James? Also James let us know if there is anything else that you have for our trucks, i love to toy around and try out new gauges!

Thanks,
Patrick

Hmmm reading above it states that GER = Gear, dont think that our trucks have 12 gears?!? :confused: :eek: We might have to divide that number James, the automatic transmission seen above came with 4 speed or 5 speed with torq shift transmission, going off of what i see this is a 4 speed transmission and the number needs divided by 3, i will test this on the way to work in the morning as i have the 6 speed manual :D

amdriven2liv
03-29-2011, 03:17 AM
Nice Video, all readings look pretty good to mine, what is GER my the way? And were the WOT above 3k rpm? Just curious.

Thanks,
Patrick

Yes, they were over 3000 RPM. Just not very long.

I haven't tried the misfire ones yet, am more interested in the ON/OFF toggle for the injectors.

As far as GER, it is "Gear". That was a suggestion by a tech I asked for input on PIDs He would like to see. So, I loaded it, and will talk to Him about what it is showing, now that He can see the video.

Sean

DieselStroke
03-29-2011, 03:25 AM
My guess is that the below code should show the correct gear, if you wanna try it tomorrow let me know what it shows, should make more sense this way!

Gear
TXD: 07E12211B3
RXF: 0462051106B3
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100030000
NAM: GER

The above is done by what is shown below in case anyone is wonder how i got the number:

MTH
MTH tells the ScanGaugeII how to scale and offset the data for the correct display. There are 3 fields in MTH.
(Math): Multiplier Divider Add/Subtract
(Value): 0000 0000 0000
(GER Value): 0001 0003 0000
:D

DieselStroke
03-29-2011, 03:32 AM
Just wondering i have since day 1 wanted to test the SCAN feature on the gauge to make sure it actually works, what is the easiest and safest way to set a code? FYI pulling the EGR Valve plug does not work on the 04 trucks :) just a thought.

amdriven2liv
03-29-2011, 03:51 AM
Maybe unplug the ICP? Or the MAP sensor? Mine picked up an EGR code when I was trying to do a block off in the up pipe to EGR cooler. EGR flow.

npccpartsman
03-29-2011, 10:52 AM
Yea, you can use the last 4 digits of the MTH to bias any XGauge. I've adjusted the MTH in the EBP down 0.5 PSI, so it should match your MAP with KOEO.

Exhaust Back Pressure (-0.5 PSI bias)
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D0050FFFB
NAM: EBP

With regard to the fan speed, I used 000100040000 instead of 000100010000 because the raw data that was being sent is 4x the real value. The 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th digit of the MTH control how much the incoming data is divided by, so 0004 will divide by 4.

Thanks for the adjuted EBP value.

I have a PID of 091F for the fan speed sensor duty cycle in %. Can you work me one up for that?

Regarding the MTH. I understand the 1-4 digits are a multiplier, 5-8 a divisor, and 9-12 add/subtract but I don't understand, for example, the meaning of each column in the add/subtract (FFFB), how the values and +/- are determined by each place. I have a dec/hex/binary conversion chart if that helps me.

npccpartsman
03-29-2011, 10:56 AM
Just wondering i have since day 1 wanted to test the SCAN feature on the gauge to make sure it actually works, what is the easiest and safest way to set a code? FYI pulling the EGR Valve plug does not work on the 04 trucks :) just a thought.

Mine won't read codes on my 04 and I always have 2 (U0306 from a tuned FICM and P0488 from a missing TPS). I induced glowplug codes from disconnecting the GPCM and it didn't show those either.

npccpartsman
03-29-2011, 11:00 AM
Hmmm reading above it states that GER = Gear, dont think that our trucks have 12 gears?!? :confused: :eek: We might have to divide that number James, the automatic transmission seen above came with 4 speed or 5 speed with torq shift transmission, going off of what i see this is a 4 speed transmission and the number needs divided by 3, i will test this on the way to work in the morning as i have the 6 speed manual :D

The torqshift is a 6 speed automatic and shifts 1,2,3,5,6. 4 is skipped unless the ambient temp is REALLY cold.

amdriven2liv
03-29-2011, 01:56 PM
My guess is that the below code should show the correct gear, if you wanna try it tomorrow let me know what it shows, should make more sense this way!

Gear
TXD: 07E12211B3
RXF: 0462051106B3
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100030000
NAM: GER

The above is done by what is shown below in case anyone is wonder how i got the number:

MTH
MTH tells the ScanGaugeII how to scale and offset the data for the correct display. There are 3 fields in MTH.
(Math): Multiplier Divider Add/Subtract
(Value): 0000 0000 0000
(GER Value): 0001 0003 0000
:D

Thanks, I think I will try 0002 as a divider also.

jonnysteals
03-29-2011, 02:54 PM
Sweet guys I would like to say that I am buying one this weekend just because of linear logic customer support. Awesome to say the least

Linear Logic
03-29-2011, 05:25 PM
James, about the injector codes with the on/off toggle, how do those work? Well, my documentation only simply states "Fuel Injector # commanded on" which I would hazard a guess as meaning the injector is injecting fuel when it's on. I could be completely wrong though. This PID is very low on info, and it's kind of a long shot at working because it doesn't indicate if this PID should work on gas, diesel, or both - which is usually a sign that this PID is no longer used. Are you just getting a blank value for the XGauge? If so, the ScanGauge is just not getting a response.


FYI i was not able to get the cyclinder misfire to work properly, i assume every cylinder has a misfire, especially when you start one of these trucks up cold without being plugged in, however i am just getting a reading of 0, any thoughts to this James?
Well, the fact that we're getting a 0 back indicates that the PID believes that there has been 0 misfires, however my original assumption that it's reporting all misfires that have occurred for that cylinder for all time may be wrong. It could be for the current drive cycle, or under some other conditions. All PID descriptor indicates is that it's reporting th "Cumulative misfires for cylinder x". It will probably take some testing from the 6.0 community to determine if it's reporting properly. If someone out there knows their engine is misfiring and we're still seeing 0's then we'll have to take that XGauge back to the drawing board.

Also James let us know if there is anything else that you have for our trucks, i love to toy around and try out new gauges!
Here's one you might like to try

Net Torque into Torque Converter (Ft-Lbs)
TXD: 07E02209CB
RXF: 0462050906CB
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: TRQ

Hmmm reading above it states that GER = Gear, dont think that our trucks have 12 gears?!? :confused: :eek: We might have to divide that number James, the automatic transmission seen above came with 4 speed or 5 speed with torq shift transmission, going off of what i see this is a 4 speed transmission and the number needs divided by 3, i will test this on the way to work in the morning as i have the 6 speed manual :D

I took a look back at the PID and there was a mistake in my original XGauge. It should divide the incoming number by 2 where as my original XGauge only divided it by 1. Try this:

Gear
TXD: 07E12211B3
RXF: 0462051106B3
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100020000
NAM: GER

Thanks for the adjuted EBP value.

I have a PID of 091F for the fan speed sensor duty cycle in %. Can you work me one up for that?

Sure thing!

Fan Speed Sensor Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022091F
RXF: 04624509061F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 013103E80000
NAM: FDC

Let me know how that works - the MTH was a little weird on it haha.

Regarding the MTH. I understand the 1-4 digits are a multiplier, 5-8 a divisor, and 9-12 add/subtract but I don't understand, for example, the meaning of each column in the add/subtract (FFFB), how the values and +/- are determined by each place. I have a dec/hex/binary conversion chart if that helps me.
Each section is a 4 digit hexadecimal value, and it's not much different from the decimal system except it uses base a 16 system instead of base 10. Also Hex uses alpha characters to represent values higher than 9 in one digit. A = 10, B = 11, C = 12, D = 13, E = 14, and F = 15. An example of this is that 100 in decimal is equal to 007B in hex. To understand how that works you have to break each value down into it's base form.

123 is the same as (1 x 10^2) + (2 x 10^1) + (3 x 10^0) which equals (1 x 100) + (2 x 10) + (3 x 1) which equals 100 + 20 + 3 which results in 123.

Hex works the same way, but instead of using powers of 10 we use powers of 16.

007B is the same as (0 x 16^3) + (0 x 16^2) + (7 x 16^1) + (12 x 16^0) which equals (0 x 4096) + (0 x 256) + (7 x 16) + (11 x 1) which equals 0 + 0 + 112 + 11 which results in 123

If all that didn't make sense, don't worry. There's a great online converter that will convert decimal values into hexidecimal values (and vice versa) here: Hex to Decimal Converter (http://www.statman.info/conversions/hexadecimal.html)

Just plug in the values you want to use for each section of the MTH value and it will convert it for you. For example if you wanted to know how to multiply a value by 100, just plug in 100 and hit "To hexadecimal" and it will give you 64. Just be sure to input it as 0064 instead of 6400 in the MTH section.

That's a very brief explanation of the MTH section (I excluded how to do negative numbers as that's an even more confusing topic, but I'll explain it if you wish).

amdriven2liv
03-29-2011, 05:42 PM
James, I'll try the TRQ. I did try the ones in the manual, they didn't work, just to let you know.

I'll also change to the new Fan Speed to %.

I haven't used the Injector Codes for ON/OFF. I might put one in and see what happens.

Thanks for the input. You are making this gauge a great tool.

Sean

I have a late build 04

DieselStroke
03-29-2011, 10:17 PM
So can we make this thread a sticky yet? LOL

amdriven2liv
03-29-2011, 10:34 PM
So can we make this thread a sticky yet? LOL

Not until we get to the 300th Xgauge. LOL

truckpullin_75
03-29-2011, 10:40 PM
007B is the same as (0 x 16^3) + (0 x 16^2) + (7 x 16^1) + (11 x 16^0) which equals (0 x 4096) + (0 x 256) + (7 x 16) + (11 x 1) which equals 0 + 0 + 112 + 11 which results in 123

Fixed it for ya, might be a little less confusing that way.

06f250powerstroke
03-30-2011, 12:04 AM
my EBP reading was 17 at idle and 48 when my boost guage was at 25psi does this sound right to you...... also this was on my stock 05 truck

amdriven2liv
03-30-2011, 12:28 AM
James, could you check the Vref codes?

VREF ("My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input", comment by James )
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI

Mine read 4 all the time. Could it need a decimal point in the figures? A tech was saying this should read at least 4.95-5.0v.

I'm hoping that the 4 represented 4.95. The reading is in my video at 1:14.

Thanks

Sean

amdriven2liv
03-30-2011, 12:37 AM
my EBP reading was 17 at idle and 48 when my boost guage was at 25psi does this sound right to you...... also this was on my stock 05 truck

That sounds close. If you watch the video I have in this thread, and go to 1:21 you will see me set the EBP. Then I do a WOT and see the EBP on mine went as high as 45.4 or so. Earlier, 0:53, you will see on WOT, my boost was 26. so, I would say that at 26 boost, my EBP would have been 45.4.

Does that help?

Mine is on a stock 04.

caissiel
03-30-2011, 01:02 AM
One More Post.
I knew I had something good when I bought mine 3 1/2 years ago.
It's even much better now then I ever tought.

I can not say enough about this Gauge to all my friends, but I cannot understand why they don't see the value in it as I did when I bought it, and its even better now.

06f250powerstroke
03-30-2011, 01:29 AM
That sounds close. If you watch the video I have in this thread, and go to 1:21 you will see me set the EBP. Then I do a WOT and see the EBP on mine went as high as 45.4 or so. Earlier, 0:53, you will see on WOT, my boost was 26. so, I would say that at 26 boost, my EBP would have been 45.4.

Does that help?

Mine is on a stock 04.

that helps for sure i just wasnt sure if i was getting an accurate reading on it

DieselStroke
03-30-2011, 04:26 AM
Just an updated on what i have found so far!

Gear - Does not work on manual transmissions (Not that you need it, you should know what gear you put the truck in... lol)

TFT - Not that is it that important to monitor on a manual transmission, however the TFT does not read on manual transmissions.

TPC - Cannot get this one to work, however maybe the AP% will work which appears to be similar to this one.

Fuel Injector / Misfire Codes - Do not appear to work at this time, continous to show 0

Boost - I have an Edge Juice with Attitude that reads boost through the PCM, the scangauge is relatively close to the Edge, my only concern (more something that bugs me) is there a way to make the value of Boost be an absolute value so when it becomes negative it stays at 0? That would make this sensor reading perfect.

amdriven2liv
03-30-2011, 07:49 AM
Maybe you have 0 misfires?

My boost used to go negative, now it doesn't with the change to the MAP.

npccpartsman
03-30-2011, 09:21 AM
Fan Speed Sensor Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022091F
RXF: 04624509061F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 013103E80000
NAM: FDC

Let me know how that works - the MTH was a little weird on it haha.

Each section is a 4 digit hexadecimal value, and it's not much different from the decimal system except it uses base a 16 system instead of base 10. Also Hex uses alpha characters to represent values higher than 9 in one digit. A = 10, B = 11, C = 12, D = 13, E = 14, and F = 15. An example of this is that 100 in decimal is equal to 007B in hex. To understand how that works you have to break each value down into it's base form.

123 is the same as (1 x 10^2) + (2 x 10^1) + (3 x 10^0) which equals (1 x 100) + (2 x 10) + (3 x 1) which equals 100 + 20 + 3 which results in 123.

Hex works the same way, but instead of using powers of 10 we use powers of 16.

007B is the same as (0 x 16^3) + (0 x 16^2) + (7 x 16^1) + (12 x 16^0) which equals (0 x 4096) + (0 x 256) + (7 x 16) + (11 x 1) which equals 0 + 0 + 112 + 11 which results in 123

If all that didn't make sense, don't worry. There's a great online converter that will convert decimal values into hexidecimal values (and vice versa) here: Hex to Decimal Converter (http://www.statman.info/conversions/hexadecimal.html)

Just plug in the values you want to use for each section of the MTH value and it will convert it for you. For example if you wanted to know how to multiply a value by 100, just plug in 100 and hit "To hexadecimal" and it will give you 64. Just be sure to input it as 0064 instead of 6400 in the MTH section.

That's a very brief explanation of the MTH section (I excluded how to do negative numbers as that's an even more confusing topic, but I'll explain it if you wish).

Nice......now it makes sense. Maybe you should include this explanation/example on your website although it's obvious that you have some PID data that is needed besides just the sensor number.
Bring on the negative number explanation. I'm always game for some math.

Linear Logic
03-30-2011, 04:15 PM
James, could you check the Vref codes?

VREF ("My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input", comment by James )
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI

Mine read 4 all the time. Could it need a decimal point in the figures? A tech was saying this should read at least 4.95-5.0v.

I'm hoping that the 4 represented 4.95. The reading is in my video at 1:14.

Sure thing - I've adjusted the RXF and MTH to add two decimal places.
VREF
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046245110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006433330000
NAM: CVI


TPC - Cannot get this one to work, however maybe the AP% will work which appears to be similar to this one.
Yea, not too surprised at that. My documentation doesn't list it as usable on any engine type (gas or diesel) and those usually are just not supported.


Boost - I have an Edge Juice with Attitude that reads boost through the PCM, the scangauge is relatively close to the Edge, my only concern (more something that bugs me) is there a way to make the value of Boost be an absolute value so when it becomes negative it stays at 0? That would make this sensor reading perfect.As of right now the negative reading is just unavoidable. We'll have to make a change in the XGauge coding within the ScanGauge to be able to do something like this. It's something I've wanted as well, so I will be sure to keep pushing for it.


Bring on the negative number explanation. I'm always game for some math.
The first main step in understanding how negative numbers are represented in hexadecimal is to break the hexadecimal value down into it's binary representation.

Binary is simply a base 2 system (much like how decimal is base 10 and hexadecimal is base 16) so each digit in a binary value is multiplied by the base 2 to some power that's determined by it's digit location.

For example if you wanted to represent the decimal value of 9 in binary it would be 1001. You would break that down as:
(1 x 2^3) + (0 x 2^2) + (0 x 2^1) + (1 x 2^0) which becomes (1 x 8) + (0 x 4) + (0 x 2) + (1 x 1) which is equal to 8 + 0 + 0 + 1 = 9.

Now with the MTH value we have 3 sections - Multiply, Divide, and Add/Subtract. Each section is represented by a 4 digit hexadecimal value. Each digit in hexadecimal value has 4 bits that represent it. So each section of the MTH value is represented by 16 bits.

The largest positive value you can use in the MTH section is 7FFF or 32767. If you were to write that out in binary it would be 0111 1111 1111 1111. Notice how the very first bit is a 0? That's the key to negative (or signed) numbers. As long as that bit is a 0, then the number is considered a positive number by the ScanGauge. Once that very first bit becomes a 1, then the ScanGauge interprets it as a negative number.

Now the tricky part about representing a negative number is that -1 starts at FFFF (or 1111 1111 1111 1111 in binary) and becomes more negative as you subtract from the hex value.

FFFF = -1
FFFE = -2
FFFD = -3

And so on until you reach 8000 which equals -32767

Now, I know that's all pretty confusing. It's something I still have a little trouble with whenever I need to use negative numbers in the MTH. However I have a simple method for figuring out the negative number I'm after. If I was after the value of -456 I simply subtract 456 from 65536 then take the result (65536 - 456 = 65080) and plug it into the Hex to Decimal Converter (http://www.statman.info/conversions/hexadecimal.html) and hit "To Hexadecimal" and it will give the negative representation of -456 in hex (which is FE38).

RocknRoll
03-30-2011, 06:28 PM
Question for you technical experts. I've noticed lately after purchasing the scangauge that my FMP(ficm main power) will dip down into the low 30's, usually around startup and never after warm and running. Once i start it, as it warms the fmp volts increase up to around 48 +/- 1 to 2. Does this sound like my ficm needs some attention and is getting weak? I dont know alot about the ficm's so advice would be appreciated!:ford:

amdriven2liv
03-30-2011, 09:45 PM
James, Thanks for the new VREF. Just had a member on another forum enter the new codes and His reads 5.00. Cool, thanks for the edit!

DieselStroke
03-30-2011, 11:20 PM
I will have to try the new VREF, the FDC did not work for me, not sure why? I filled up all of my gauges :( James we need a new Scangauge that can support more gauges and possibly a scroll to allow faster switching between them? Maybe even a favorite 10 to easily scroll through? Just some ideas for the Scangauge III :) Do you have any other codes that may be fun, not necessarily even 6.0 Powerstroke related, like i like the ERT (Engine Run Time) even if you have any like this that would be fun to monitor, or maybe even a list that we could choose from and we could let you know? Also will all these newly tested and confirmed x-gauges go under the 6.0 section of the Scangauge II website???

BigDeal21
03-30-2011, 11:23 PM
Ok vgt was around 65 today at idle with truck warm. ERT would not work. Think my dumbass typed it in wrong. So far this has been the best thing I have bought for the stroker. Great product James

DieselStroke
03-31-2011, 12:05 AM
Ok vgt was around 65 today at idle with truck warm. ERT would not work. Think my dumbass typed it in wrong. So far this has been the best thing I have bought for the stroker. Great product James

::whs::

artsamm
03-31-2011, 10:11 AM
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npccpartsman
03-31-2011, 11:44 AM
Question for you technical experts. I've noticed lately after purchasing the scangauge that my FMP(ficm main power) will dip down into the low 30's, usually around startup and never after warm and running. Once i start it, as it warms the fmp volts increase up to around 48 +/- 1 to 2. Does this sound like my ficm needs some attention and is getting weak? I dont know alot about the ficm's so advice would be appreciated!:ford:

Your FMP should never dip below 45. Your FICM is toast and needs repaired or replaced.

npccpartsman
03-31-2011, 11:51 AM
....... So far this has been the best thing I have bought for the stroker. Great product James

X 3. Definitely the best bang for the $$$ by far!!!!! It's going to be one of my top recommended "mods" when folks ask.

James.....Thanks very much for the MTH explanation. It makes things a LOT clearer. With a little experimentation I should be able to do some tweaking on my own to improve some of the values for individual gauge owners in your absence. Every truck seems to have it's own little quirks and this might help diagnostics immensly.

Linear Logic
03-31-2011, 08:24 PM
the FDC did not work for me, not sure why?I try to always double check any XGauge entries that aren't working right. However it could just not be supported. Has FDC worked for anyone?

I filled up all of my gauges :( James we need a new Scangauge that can support more gauges and possibly a scroll to allow faster switching between them? Maybe even a favorite 10 to easily scroll through? Just some ideas for the Scangauge III :)
I agree, but I also try to think of having too many XGauges as sort of a good problem to have haha. I've bugged our main developer many times to increase the scroll rate for gauges, but as of yet it's not been implemented. However now that we're reaching 40+ gauges to scroll through it might be easier to convince him.

Do you have any other codes that may be fun, not necessarily even 6.0 Powerstroke related, like i like the ERT (Engine Run Time) even if you have any like this that would be fun to monitor, or maybe even a list that we could choose from and we could let you know?
I'm in the process of trying to weed out any parameters that will not work on diesel engines, once I've done that I'll try to post a list of what we have as possible parameters to monitor.

Also will all these newly tested and confirmed x-gauges go under the 6.0 section of the Scangauge II website???
These definitely will be going up on our site eventually - just want to take some time to put them through their paces which shouldn't take long.
X 3. Definitely the best bang for the $$$ by far!!!!! It's going to be one of my top recommended "mods" when folks ask.That's great to hear, and I'm very grateful for everyone here who's taken the time time try these all out and for providing all the great feedback.


James.....Thanks very much for the MTH explanation. It makes things a LOT clearer. With a little experimentation I should be able to do some tweaking on my own to improve some of the values for individual gauge owners in your absence. Every truck seems to have it's own little quirks and this might help diagnostics immensly.No problem, happy to help. The experimentation will really help solidify it all, that's what I did. If you have any questions just let me know.

amdriven2liv
03-31-2011, 09:35 PM
Ok James, here is a quick question.

Will SC II "freeze" the xgauge readings? Like it says it will freeze the Stock gauges that came with SC II?

"What is FRZD in the ScanGauge II?
When a trouble code is set, the data at that time (RPM, Coolant Temperature, Speed, Throttle Position, etc.) are captured like in a freeze frame. FRZD can be used to recall this data to help diagnose the problem."


Thanks
Sean

Linear Logic
03-31-2011, 10:39 PM
Will SC II "freeze" the xgauge readings? Like it says it will freeze the Stock gauges that came with SC II?

"What is FRZD in the ScanGauge II?
When a trouble code is set, the data at that time (RPM, Coolant Temperature, Speed, Throttle Position, etc.) are captured like in a freeze frame. FRZD can be used to recall this data to help diagnose the problem."
Unfortunately the freeze data only applies to the stock gauges. We've looked into having XGauge data frozen when a trouble code is set, but there are a few technical hurdles we have to get over before that's possible.

amdriven2liv
03-31-2011, 11:05 PM
Unfortunately the freeze data only applies to the stock gauges. We've looked into having XGauge data frozen when a trouble code is set, but there are a few technical hurdles we have to get over before that's possible.

Bummer, I was really hoping for this. Well, here is to hoping they are the low hurdles!

npccpartsman
03-31-2011, 11:43 PM
The FDC did not work for me either. It comes up blank. The PID came from the 03/04 Ford manual and it's supposed to read in percent (of what I'm not exatly sure). The MAT comes up -40 for me and should read identical to the "stock" fIT (intake air) temp gauge. IAT2 should be higher than MAT/fIT because it's in the intake manifold.

npccpartsman
04-01-2011, 12:10 AM
The FDC did not work for me either. It comes up blank. The PID came from the 03/04 Ford manual and it's supposed to read in percent (of what I'm not exatly sure). The MAT comes up -40 for me and should read identical to the "stock" fIT (intake air) temp gauge. IAT2 should be higher than MAT/fIT because it's in the intake manifold.

James---can you also convert the Baro from inches of Hg. to PSI? The EBP, MAP, and BARO should read within +/- 0.5 psi of each other IIRC, and it makes for a good diagnostic tool.

The MAT I have is:
MAT 07E02216E0 0462051606E0 3008 00090005FFD8 MANIFOLD AIR TEMPERATURE (fIT?) Degrees F

DieselStroke
04-01-2011, 12:23 AM
The FDC did not work for me either. It comes up blank. The PID came from the 03/04 Ford manual and it's supposed to read in percent (of what I'm not exatly sure). The MAT comes up -40 for me and should read identical to the "stock" fIT (intake air) temp gauge. IAT2 should be higher than MAT/fIT because it's in the intake manifold.

My MAT also readings -40 (FYI)

npccpartsman
04-01-2011, 12:27 AM
My MAT also readings -40 (FYI)

I got it from the SGII website so maybe James can check into and "repair" the data.

amdriven2liv
04-01-2011, 12:39 AM
James---can you also convert the Baro from inches of Hg. to PSI? The EBP, MAP, and BARO should read within +/- 0.5 psi of each other IIRC, and it makes for a good diagnostic tool.

The MAT I have is:
MAT 07E02216E0 0462051606E0 3008 00090005FFD8 MANIFOLD AIR TEMPERATURE (fIT?) Degrees F

Good question on BAR. Mine wasn't picking anything up.

My MAT, as I shared with you , also reads -40

But, if you look at the video at 4:08, you will see the comparison of fAI and IAT. The fAI is right near outside temp.

fAI 52* IAT 106*

npccpartsman
04-01-2011, 10:48 AM
Good question on BAR. Mine wasn't picking anything up.

My MAT, as I shared with you , also reads -40

But, if you look at the video at 4:08, you will see the comparison of fAI and IAT. The fAI is right near outside temp.

fAI 52* (read by the MAF before the turbo) IAT2 106* (read in the intake manifold)


After doing a little research the PID for IAT1 (fAI) is 1123 and for IAT2 is 16A8.
This one will possibly work for IAT1 (fAI)
IAT(fAI) 07E0221123 046205110623 3010 000100010000 *F

The MAT PID of 16E0 is called "manifold air temp" and may be for the exhaust manifold of a gas burner, at least it's in PID's of the same general family.

Linear Logic
04-01-2011, 07:44 PM
James---can you also convert the Baro from inches of Hg. to PSI?
Sure - I think this will do it

Barometric Pressure
TXD: 07E0221127
RXF: 045285110627
RXD: 3008
MTH: 003100500000

My MAT also readings -40 (FYI)
Well, if we're seeing -40 that means the ECU is responding with the lowest value it can. The ECU believes that MAT is supported since it's responding, but for whatever reason it's assuming that the sensor is pegged as low as it can go. In 7.3L diesels the water temperature acts the same way, it reads -40 all the time also. Not able to do much with a PID that always reports the lowest possible value - I can look into seeing if there are any other PIDS for MAT though. I'll see what I can come up with.

amdriven2liv
04-02-2011, 04:09 PM
Have any of you tried this one yet? I tried it yesterday and it started with "1". Then I drove a couple miles, then it changed to "2". I finished my trip to work (20 miles) no change. Drove home, still reading "2". Now since this is a DTC counter, I'm assuming that it is telling me I have either 1 code twice, or 2 separate codes. I'm thinking the 1 code twice.

The Scan shows that I have zero codes. And is ready.

I know there are a couple of you on here that get codes from other scanner tools, so I thought this might help us see that we have "soft" codes that are not setting "CEL" light. And maybe seeing if SCII can be improved to get these "Soft" codes.

I have not gone to a auto parts store to have them read my truck. But will maybe later today. (if I can get off my rear off the couch, it was a 21 hour day yesterday)


DTC Count
TXD: 07E0220200
RXF: 046205020600
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: DTC

DieselStroke
04-03-2011, 12:15 AM
Most likely your auto parts stores will not be able to read the codes unless they are set with a CEL, but let us know... and ya i would also like to see what codes are set, however i dont know if the scangauge will be able to do it.... James any thoughts?

deliberate
04-03-2011, 09:50 PM
If you have any questions just let me know.
Thanks for all your help here in this thread. I bought a SGII approx three years ago (v3.15BH) and have used it since then on my old 1999 4x4 Exploder 4.0 gasser with great satisfaction. I just recently, in another forum, found that I might be able to use my SGII on my 2010 6.4 diesel F350 and went looking for more information, which I found here in this thread. Some of the Xgauge recipes here seem to work for me, some not ... (nice expandable system, btw).

My question is simple: how much of this should work on the 2008-2010 Ford 6.4 diesel Super Duty trucks?

My follow-up would be: given that the 6.4 uses the EGT (actually hyper-heated exhuast) to clean (burn out) the DPF (particulate filter) and therefore all those several pyro sensors along the exhaust system (and DPF status) must be digitized onto the truck network, can we get that out thru XGAUGE?

You would sell a *lot* SGIIs if you can display digitized EGT etc from the OBDII port (just a the higher priced digital gauges do).

TIA,
- Don

Linear Logic
04-04-2011, 09:41 PM
Have any of you tried this one yet? I tried it yesterday and it started with "1". Then I drove a couple miles, then it changed to "2". I finished my trip to work (20 miles) no change. Drove home, still reading "2". Now since this is a DTC counter, I'm assuming that it is telling me I have either 1 code twice, or 2 separate codes. I'm thinking the 1 code twice.

The Scan shows that I have zero codes. And is ready.

I know there are a couple of you on here that get codes from other scanner tools, so I thought this might help us see that we have "soft" codes that are not setting "CEL" light. And maybe seeing if SCII can be improved to get these "Soft" codes.

I have not gone to a auto parts store to have them read my truck. But will maybe later today. (if I can get off my rear off the couch, it was a 21 hour day yesterday)
Yea, the "Soft" codes might be what they call the pending codes. I believe they are simply codes that have occurred, but the ECU is waiting to turn on the check engine light pending the results of the other drive cycle based tests that are routinely run. We've actually added the ability to check for pending codes in the latest software release.

If you don't have the latest release (not many do, it was release only about a month ago) you can still check for pending codes with the CMNDS feature, it's just a little more complicated.

If you go the CMNDS feature in the ScanGauge (can be accessed by pressing MORE > MORE > CMNDS from the home screen) you are able to type in custom data requests. It's kind of like a junior version of the XGauge feature, where you simply input the TXD and manually send it. Anyway, input a value of 07 into one of the CMND memory slots. From there hit save, then press send. The ScanGauge will show the response from the ECU. It will be a bunch of hexadecimal values, and if you post them up I can decipher them for you to let you know what (if any) pending codes there are.

My question is simple: how much of this should work on the 2008-2010 Ford 6.4 diesel Super Duty trucks?

That's a good question. I can't say for sure, but I am hoping most of it will be transferable where you wouldn't even have to adjust the XGauges at all from the 6.0 codes to the 6.4 codes. We're looking for anyone with a 6.4 and a ScanGauge to try out some of these codes and let us know.

My follow-up would be: given that the 6.4 uses the EGT (actually hyper-heated exhuast) to clean (burn out) the DPF (particulate filter) and therefore all those several pyro sensors along the exhaust system (and DPF status) must be digitized onto the truck network, can we get that out thru XGAUGE?

You would sell a *lot* SGIIs if you can display digitized EGT etc from the OBDII port (just a the higher priced digital gauges do).

If it's reported by the ECU thru the OBDII port there's a good chance we'll be able to develop an XGauge for it. None of my documentation indicates an EGT Parameter, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not there. You can trust I'll be looking for it though.

deliberate
04-04-2011, 09:50 PM
We're looking for anyone with a 6.4 and a ScanGauge to try out some of these codes and let us know.That's me! Check your regular email or your message here. Ready to go!

BTW: the Insight from Edge reports the EGT from the OBDII port for 6.4s so it's there someplace ... as is the DPF status.

- Don

amdriven2liv
04-04-2011, 10:09 PM
Yea, the "Soft" codes might be what they call the pending codes. I believe they are simply codes that have occurred, but the ECU is waiting to turn on the check engine light pending the results of the other drive cycle based tests that are routinely run. We've actually added the ability to check for pending codes in the latest software release.

If you don't have the latest release (not many do, it was release only about a month ago) you can still check for pending codes with the CMNDS feature, it's just a little more complicated.

If you go the CMNDS feature in the ScanGauge (can be accessed by pressing MORE > MORE > CMNDS from the home screen) you are able to type in custom data requests. It's kind of like a junior version of the XGauge feature, where you simply input the TXD and manually send it. Anyway, input a value of 07 into one of the CMND memory slots. From there hit save, then press send. The ScanGauge will show the response from the ECU. It will be a bunch of hexadecimal values, and if you post them up I can decipher them for you to let you know what (if any) pending codes there are.

Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try.

amdriven2liv
04-04-2011, 10:20 PM
Ok, just ran out and entered 07 into Commands >memory 1>07> send

(there wasn't a save button ) This is what came out:

4700000000000055

DieselStroke
04-05-2011, 03:11 AM
Ok, just ran out and entered 07 into Commands >memory 1>07> send

(there wasn't a save button ) This is what came out:

4700000000000055

Well i tried the same thing as above, i have 1 DTC set at this time, i do the
more > cmds > memory 01 > 07 > OK > Send > and a blank screen comes up that just says ok at the bottom right again that will return you to the memory banks?

amdriven2liv
04-05-2011, 04:13 AM
Well i tried the same thing as above, i have 1 DTC set at this time, i do the
more > cmds > memory 01 > 07 > OK > Send > and a blank screen comes up that just says ok at the bottom right again that will return you to the memory banks?

I guess we will find out tomorrow.

Nice to see they have up graded the new ones for this gauge.

DieselStroke
04-05-2011, 04:15 AM
I guess we will find out tomorrow.

Nice to see they have up graded the new ones for this gauge.

Mine is only 2 months old, when he says the new ones are upgraded this means that they automatically read the soft codes?

amdriven2liv
04-05-2011, 04:30 AM
From James:

We've actually added the ability to check for pending codes in the latest software release.

Sadly, you may have been a month early. Would be nice if I could update mine to the latest version.

amdriven2liv
04-05-2011, 04:41 AM
(should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)

I added the above to the FICM VPWR gauge on other forums. But you might want to edit yours here to help future guys questions.

FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts)(should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)

TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FVP

DieselStroke
04-05-2011, 12:28 PM
Ok, just ran out and entered 07 into Commands >memory 1>07> send

(there wasn't a save button ) This is what came out:

4700000000000055

Turned the truck on this morning, let it run for 2 minutes and i came up with the same code?

Linear Logic
04-05-2011, 06:14 PM
Ok, just ran out and entered 07 into Commands >memory 1>07> send

(there wasn't a save button ) This is what came out:

4700000000000055
That's a correct response. 40 is added to the mode (which was 07) to indicate a response to the mode 07 request. In this case all the 0's indicate there's nothing trouble code related. The 55 at the end probably a filler signal since 55 is commonly used as a 'keep alive' signal since it's just a rapid sequence of off/on bits which keeps the bus active.

Was hoping that would show the trouble codes that were being detected by the DTC XGauge, but it appears that's not the correct place to be looking. I'll dig around and see if there's anywhere else to find those possible DTC's.

amdriven2liv
04-05-2011, 07:58 PM
Thanks James,

I'll keep monitoring the DTC, and if one pops again, I'll stop and send that command, maybe if I happen to catch it early it will show us another number.

I'll try to send command while driving if I see it soon enough.

deliberate
04-08-2011, 05:58 PM
FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts)(should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)
TXD: 07E0 2209 CE
RXF: 0462 4509 06CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064 0100 00000
NAM: FVP
I note that your MTH above has an additional hex character *someplace* in the string, which becomes obvious if you write them out in groups of four (obviously you DO NOT enter the spaces during Xgauge setup).

I have a 2010 6.4 and I can not get some of the 6.0 xgauge FICM-voltage setups to work for me, including the one above.

I have been in direct contact with James at LL and have been working on 6.4 specific EGT and DPF data added to the OBDII system for the truck-controlled "regen" cycle. If the reader is a 6.4 owner (2008+, not sure about 2011 6.7) I've started a thread in my regular forum (below) which gives the setups I've used: 6.4: EGT/DPF/regen w/ScangaugeII - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com (http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f55/6-4-egt-dpf-regen-w-scangaugeii-280266/)

Thanks to all the posters here who gave me shoulders to stand on. Much appreciated. I really love this little ScanGaugeII and look forward to the next great leap forward in its firmware.

HTH,
- Don

deliberate
04-08-2011, 06:07 PM
Fuel Level
TXD: 0 07E0 2216 C1
RXF: 0462 4516 06C1
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0001 0148 0000
NAM: FL

If you break up your data strings into 4-char subsets (for display only, DO NOT ENTER SPACES) your TXD would appear to have a superfluous leading zero.

IIRC, all Ford CAN TXD start with "07E0".

Thanks,
- Don

therabbittree
04-12-2011, 02:13 PM
Is there a reg oil pressure reading ?..I have a HPOP guage ..just looking for the regular oil pressure.
Also I did a word 2007 document with all the codes listed in the past 18 pages
I can try to attach it.
Thanks.
Deo

CLAC
04-12-2011, 05:43 PM
I've become a HYPERMILLER since I got my Scan Gauge
http://www.hypermilling.com

therabbittree
04-12-2011, 06:19 PM
I've attached a Microsoft Word Doc with the 56 Codes list in the last 18 pages of this thread. If any one as additional codes not listed we can add them etc...

I'd still like a Regular Oil Pressure code if any one has it?...
Thanks,
Deo

RocknRoll
04-12-2011, 06:28 PM
I've attached a Microsoft Word Doc with the 56 Codes list in the last 18 pages of this thread.

I's still like a Regular Oil Pressure code if any one has it?...
Thanks,
Deo

Schweet! Thanks so much! It was kind of tasking to search through all the pages and gather all the codes. I'm sure i missed some. File was saved and now i have them all real handy!:psnb:

therabbittree
04-12-2011, 06:45 PM
Thanks, there was excel file ..that was linked on page 10 but my virus detection stated it wasn't safe...so I made the word doc. If we get more we can add them to the document etc..
Thanks
Deo

Bigdog
04-13-2011, 01:38 AM
I'd like the Regular Oil Pressure code myself. So if someone can give it up that would be outstanding.

BTW I bought this Scangauge a couple days ago and I think it is one very useful piece of equipment.:redspotdance:

npccpartsman
04-13-2011, 09:42 AM
There is no regular oil pressure code since there isn't a real oil pressure sensor. It's basically just an on/off switch for an idiot light with a needle. It only takes 7.5 psi for your dash gauge to read normal and the low pressure oil is regulated to ~70 psi.

therabbittree
04-13-2011, 12:01 PM
thanks parts man.. that clears that up..i just added 5 guages last week egt, trans temp, boost, fuel pressure, hpop pressure, & my Scan gauage II. I used a 4 gauage a pillar and a single column mount.. looks like I'll be adding a over the mirror guage mount hehe....debate on a 3 or 4 gauge mount.. looking at oil pressure, oil temp, coolant temp, not sure of a 4th guage, maybe volts? any ideas..
Thanks,
deo

jonnysteals
04-13-2011, 03:18 PM
The scan gauge can monitor oil and coolant temp as well as volts.

therabbittree
04-13-2011, 04:59 PM
I know that, I just typed the 56 code list above. :grouphug:My point was, a 1 single oil pressure guage would look silly alone somewhere. I figured adding another pod, would be neater looking. but a 1 gauge pod over the rear view mirror would be dumb.. they make them I believe in 3 and 4.. not sure of a 2 gauage one. You beside the scan guage has some neat codes to run ..and you can't run them all ie you can only save so many into the guage and you can only see 4 at a time, then schroll for the rest.
Thanks,
Deo

kirbybear
04-14-2011, 11:18 PM
Diesel Stoke I noticed on page 6 that you have both an Edge Juice and a ScanGuage running at the same time. I have split the OBD2 plug to feed an Edge Insight monitor and a ScanGauge2 version 4.02.
The Edge was not happy with the marriage. The Edge was displaying voltage, ECT and EOT. At KOEO both temps went negative. Have you noticed any similar discontent. The Scangauge did not seem to care about the union. Bob

amdriven2liv
04-16-2011, 12:33 AM
Well, what I received from cheezit is a great start.

I don't think we need a lot of us showing what each of our trucks are doing at any given time. What we need , I think, is where Ford says each of our gauges "should" be reading.

I will be working on this this coming week, (some way to spend a vacation huh?) Applying these specs to each of our new codes.


from cheezit:

here some operating values. if you need help in sypher let me know.


Acronym Key On Low Idle High Idle Operating Range Measurement Units Description
ACCS OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON OFF/ON AC Cycle Switch
ACP OPEN OPEN OPEN OPEN/ CLOSED OPEN/ CLOSED AC Pressure Switch
APP 0 0 13 0 - 17.75 PERCENT Accelerator Pedal Position
APP1 4.0 4.0 3.4 0.7 - 4.2 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 1
APP2 1.4 1.4 1.9 1.4 - 4.1 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 2
APP3 0.9 0.9 1.4 0.8 - 3.5 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 3
APP_MODE CT CT PT CT, PT, WOT CT, PT, WOT Accelerator Pedal Position
AST 00:00 00:07 01:00 - min : sec Time Since Start
B+ 12.6 13.3 14.0 10.5 - 15.5 VOLT Battery Voltage
BARO 96.5 (14) 96.5 (14) 96.5 (14) 50 - 120 (7.3 - 17.4) kPa (PSI) Barometric Pressure
BOO OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Brake Pedal
BPA OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Brake Pressure Applied
CLRDIST 926.1 926.1 926.1 - Miles Distance Since DTCs Cleared
CLRWRMUP 2 2 2 - Numeric Value Number of Warmups Since DTCs Cleared
CMPFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT CMP Status
CPP/PNP NEUTRAL NEUTRAL NEUTRAL NEUTRAL DRIVE/ NEUTRAL Clutch Pedal Position
DECHOKE No No No - Yes/No Dechoke Mode
DRIVECNT 6 7 7 0 - 65535 NUMBER Valid Drive Counter
DTCCNT 0 0 0 0 - 255 NUMBER DTC Count
ECT 88 (190) 88 (190) 88 (190) -40 - 121 (-40 - 250) TEMPERA- TURE C (F) Coolant Temperature
ECT_FM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT ECT Fault
EGR EVAL NO NO NO YES NO/YES EGR Evaluated
EGR DC# 0 0 - 15 32 0 - 44 PERCENT EGR Duty Cycle
EGR_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT 0 - 44 FAULT/NO FAULT EGR Status
EGRVP 0.8 0.8 - 1.0 1.3 0.6 - 3.5 VOLT EGR Valve Position
EGRVPDES 0 0 9.72 0 - 14 PERCENT EGR Desired
EOT 88 (190) 88 (190) 88 (190) -40 - 150 (-40 - 302) TEMPERA- TURE C (F) Oil Temperature
EOTFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT EOT Status
EP 103 (15) 110 (16) 110 (16) 55 - 607 (8 - 88) kPa (PSI) Exhaust Pressure
EP_V 0.8 1.2 1.3 0.4 - 4.7 VOLT Exhaust Pressure
EP DSD 3.26 2.43 2.13 PSI Exhaust Pressure Desired
FANSS 0 533 488 0 - 4000 RPM Fan Speed
FANSSM LOW LOW LOW LOW LOW/HIGH Cooling Fan Driver
FAN VAR # 0 0 0 0 - 100 Percent Fan Speed Monitor
FAN VAR_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Fan Speed Monitor
FICMSYNC NO YES YES YES YES/NO Synchronization from FICM
FICM_LPWR 12.0 13.5 13.5 10.5 - 15.5 VOLTS FICM Logic Power FICM logic power from the FICM relay.
FICM_MPWR 47 47.5 47.5 40 - 52 VOLTS FICM Main Power FICM injector power supply from the FICM relay.
FICM_VPWR 12.0 14.0 14.0 10.5 - 15.5 VOLTS FICM Vehicle Power FICM vehicle power from the ignition switch.
FLI 36.1 36.1 34.1 0 - 100 PERCENT Fuel Level Indicator
FP# ON/OFF ON ON ON ON/OFF Fuel Pump
FPM ON/OFF ON ON ON ON/OFF Fuel Pump Monitor
FUELPW 0 990 680 0 - 50000 (μ seconds) Fuel Pulse Width
GENB_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Generator 2 Output Fault
GENFIL OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON Generator Fault Indicator
GEN_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Generator 1 Output Fault
GPCTM 0 0 0 0 - 180 TIME (seconds) Glow Plug Coil On Time
GPL ON/OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Glow Plug Indicator
GPLTM 0 0 0 1 - 10 TIME (seconds) Glow Plug Indicator On Time
IAT 98.6 98.6 96.8 -40 - 250 TEMPERA- TURE (F) Intake Air Temp (MAF Assembly)
IAT2 113 113 113 -40 - 250 TEMPERA- TURE F Intake Air Temp (Manifold Air)
IATFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT IAT Status
ICP 0.2 1.0 1.8 0.15 - 4.7 VOLT Injection Control Pressure
ICP_DES 0 625.5 1400 - 1450 0 - 4045 PRESSURE (PSI) ICP Desired
INJ1_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ2_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ3_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ4_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ5_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ6_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ7_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ8_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ_TIM 0 -8.71 +3.5 -50 - 50 ANGLE (Degrees) Injector Timing (TDC)
IPR # 14.84 24 40.60 0 - 50 PERCENT Injection Pressure Regulator
LOAD 0 12.5 14 0 - 100 PERCENT Calculated Load Value
MAF 0 1.44 2.65 0.5 - 4.75 VOLT Mass Air Flow
MAF_FM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Mass Air Flow Status
MAP 96 (14) 96 (14) 103 (15) 41 - 324 (6 - 47) kPa (PSI) Manifold Absolute Pressure
MAP_V 1.30 1.33 1.40 0.5 - 4.5 VOLT Manifold Absolute Pressure
MFDES 0 7.5 10.7 0 - 100 MASS mg/stroke Mass Fuel Desired
MGP 0 0.25 0.8 -10 - 30 PRESSURE (psi) Manifold Gauge Pressure
MIL OFF OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF Malfunction Indicator
MIL_DIS 926.1 926.1 926.1 - Miles Distance Since MIL Activated
MISF_EVAL NO NO YES YES NO/YES Misfire Monitor
MP_LRN YES YES YES YES NO/YES Learned Misfire Correction
NM 0 0 0 0 - 65535 NUMBER Number of Misfires
PATSENABL ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED/ DISABLED Passive Anti-Theft
PBA OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON Park Brake Applied
PNP Neutral Neutral Neutral Park/Neutral Park/Neutral Park/Neutral Position Switch
RPM 0 628 2500 0 - 4096 RPM Revolutions Per Minute
RPMSD 625 625 625 625 RPM Desired Idle RPM
SCCS NONE NONE NONE OFF/ON/ RESUME/ CANCEL/ NONE/SET/ COAST/ NOT AVAILABLE OFF/ON/ RESUME/ CANCEL/ NONE/SET/ COAST/ NOT AVAILABLE Speed Control Switches
STRT_RLY DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED/ ENABLED Starter Relay
SYNC NO YES YES YES NO/YES CMP and CKP Synchronized
TORQUE 0 9 - 20 50 400 Nm Net Engine Torque
TRIP NO NO NO YES N0/YES OBD Trip Completed
TRIP CNT 0 0 0 0 0 - 255 Trip Count
VFDES 0 9 14 0 - 250 VOLUME mm^3 Volume Fuel Desired
VGTDC # 0 73 43 0 - 100 PERCENT Turbo Duty Cycle
VGT_F NO NO NO NO NO/YES Turbo Fault
VREF 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.5 - 5.5 VOLTS Reference Voltage
VSS 0 0 0 0 - 120 SPEED (MPH) Vehicle Speed
WAC OFF OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF WOT A/C Cutoff
WFS NO NO NO NO NO/YES Water in Fuel


And the work begins.

dieselmac
04-16-2011, 05:02 AM
Here's the operating values for all PCM PID's in an '06. These are straight from the Ford PC/ED manual (Powertrain Control / Emissions Diagnosis), Section 6.

I'm trying to correlate the Ford PID Acronyms and Descriptions with all the PID's posted here and various other sites but it's proving to be a bit of a challenge. Some of the PID's in this thread don't appear in the Ford list (i.e. boost) and there are, understandably, several in the Ford list that haven't been tried here. Yet. I suspect the PID's in this thread that aren't in the Ford list are just a difference in nomenclature and need to be worked through.

I'm still hunting for the PID's available through the transmission controller but have yet to find a comprehensive list.

If anyone has any additions or corrections, let me know and I'll revise and repost.

dieselmac
04-16-2011, 05:10 AM
And here's a list of the PID's/XGauges I've captured from the various forums. Highlights have been correlated with the Ford list.

amdriven2liv
04-16-2011, 04:51 PM
And here's a list of the PID's/XGauges I've captured from the various forums. Highlights have been correlated with the Ford list.

Nice work. Thanks for taking the time!:rockwoot::bowfast:

caissiel
04-16-2011, 10:20 PM
well done

RocknRoll
04-17-2011, 06:25 PM
Couple questions, i loaded an IPR file and it reads more like ICP, gets into 1k and sometimes a 1.5k, but on the list of desired readings above it shows it should be a percent, from like 0-50. Any clue?

Also, has anyone had the CHT(cylinder head temp) working? I loaded it twice to make sure, and im not getting anything.

Thanks

amdriven2liv
04-17-2011, 06:37 PM
This is the code I used for IPR:

IPR Duty Cycle

TXD: 07E0221434

RXF: 046285140634

RXD: 3008

MTH: 0DCA03E8000A

NAM: IPR %

Mine reads %, but, as you noted about the Operating Range, mine went to 72.3 and 73.0 % on 2 WOT's I did. Not sure what it means, but am trying to find out.

CHT doesn't work on my 04. Don't think it had a PID then. Maybe someone with an 05 or newer will give it a go.

amdriven2liv
04-21-2011, 02:50 AM
That's a correct response.

James, is there a "transmission range sensor" PID? Besides the "GEAR" one?

dieselmac
04-21-2011, 03:23 AM
CHT doesn't work on my 04. Don't think it had a PID then. Maybe someone with an 05 or newer will give it a go.

It doesn't work on my '06 either. In fact, I can't even imagine what sensor it would be getting a value from. The manual I took the PID list from is for gassers and diesel. I'm guessing some of the blank stares we're getting back are for gasser only PID's.

I also noticed a problem with the Manifold Air Temp (PID 16E0) in my spreadsheet. Temp's don't look right. If you take away the math conversion, it looks like it's reporting *C. If I convert to *F by hand, the temps are about what I would expect. I haven't had time to look at it but the C to F conversion appears wrong in the MTH statement.

Linear Logic
04-21-2011, 10:15 PM
James, is there a "transmission range sensor" PID? Besides the "GEAR" one?

I have PID that is for Transmission Range, but the documentation does not indicate if it's for Gas, Diesel, or Both. Usually when it doesn't indicate which system it's for they don't work - but it's worth a try if you're interested.

Transmission Range
TXD: 07E12211B6
RXF: 0462051106B6
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: TR

The note I have on it states: "TR - PRNDL Position. 0=fault. 1=manual 1st gear. 2=second to last position. 3=drive. 4=overdrive. 5=neutral. 6=reverse. 7=park"

I also noticed a problem with the Manifold Air Temp (PID 16E0) in my spreadsheet. Temp's don't look right. If you take away the math conversion, it looks like it's reporting *C. If I convert to *F by hand, the temps are about what I would expect. I haven't had time to look at it but the C to F conversion appears wrong in the MTH statement.
The MTH that's currently being used (00090005FFD8) is assuming 1 degree Celsius per bit with a -40 degree Celsius bias. This is a pretty standard way of reporting temperatures, however I've found that Ford doesn't always follow the standard. I've looked back into the documentation I have on this PID and have come up with a new MTH. It seems that it's 2 Degrees Fahrenheit per bit. If that's correct then MAT should be:

Manifold Air Temperature (Degrees F)
TXD: 07E02216E0
RXF: 0462051606E0
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000200010000
NAM: MAT

Try that out and let me know what you think

amdriven2liv
04-21-2011, 10:58 PM
Thanks James, it will be tested. Thanks again for your help!

dieselmac
04-22-2011, 12:51 AM
x2! I'll try it out tomorrow. The math looks like the numbers will make sense now. I tried putting in the *C to *F MTH today and it gave numbers too high.

amdriven2liv
04-22-2011, 05:45 PM
My BAROMETER isn't working

Someone have the Xgauge for BAR. I currently have the one that is on one of the pages in here.

Linear Logic
04-22-2011, 06:26 PM
My BAROMETER isn't working

Someone have the Xgauge for BAR. I currently have the one that is on one of the pages in here.
Try giving this one a shot. I think the one I posted earlier was supposed to be for gas systems - surprised it worked at all for anyone!

Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: PSI

amdriven2liv
04-22-2011, 06:31 PM
Try giving this one a shot. I think the one I posted earlier was supposed to be for gas systems - surprised it worked at all for anyone!

Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: PSI

Yes, That one does work, I'm sitting out here entering it and it works fine.

Thanks James!

amdriven2liv
04-22-2011, 06:32 PM
Now my readings are: KOEO

EBP=14.7
MAP=14.6
BAR=14.6


Cool.

dieselmac
04-22-2011, 07:54 PM
The MTH that's currently being used (00090005FFD8) is assuming 1 degree Celsius per bit with a -40 degree Celsius bias. This is a pretty standard way of reporting temperatures, however I've found that Ford doesn't always follow the standard. I've looked back into the documentation I have on this PID and have come up with a new MTH. It seems that it's 2 Degrees Fahrenheit per bit. If that's correct then MAT should be:

Manifold Air Temperature (Degrees F)
TXD: 07E02216E0
RXF: 0462051606E0
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000200010000
NAM: MAT

Try that out and let me know what you think

That works. Thanks a bunch!

amdriven2liv
04-22-2011, 10:18 PM
Ok, we have some folks not getting EBP to work right. (mainly on 03-04's)

So, the challenge for you James is this,

Is there , or there should be a gauge PID that is EBPG. Think you could find that?

Thanks Sean

Linear Logic
04-22-2011, 10:44 PM
Ok, we have some folks not getting EBP to work right. (mainly on 03-04's)

So, the challenge for you James is this,

Is there , or there should be a gauge PID that is EBPG. Think you could find that?

Thanks Sean
I'm guessing EBPG was supposed to be EBPV For Exhaust Back Pressure Voltage? If so, give this a try:

Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor Voltage
TXD: 07E02216AE
RXF: 0462451606AE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001309C40000
NAM: EPV

amdriven2liv
04-22-2011, 11:07 PM
Thanks James, I'll pass this along.

amdriven2liv
04-23-2011, 12:39 AM
So, these didn't work either for the 03 trucks being tested on:

Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor Voltage
TXD: 07E02216AE
RXF: 0462451606AE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001309C40000
NAM: EPV

Fan Speed Sensor Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022091F
RXF: 04624509061F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 013103E80000
NAM: FDC

Exhaust Back Pressure (-0.5 PSI bias)
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D0050FFFB
NAM: EBP

EBP
Exhaust Back Pressure
07E0221445
046285140645
3010
001D00500000
EBP

Might be a PCM issue? With the program for that year?

amdriven2liv
04-23-2011, 12:42 AM
I have PID that is for Transmission Range, but the documentation does not indicate if it's for Gas, Diesel, or Both. Usually when it doesn't indicate which system it's for they don't work - but it's worth a try if you're interested.

Transmission Range
TXD: 07E12211B6
RXF: 0462051106B6
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: TR

The note I have on it states: "TR - PRNDL Position. 0=fault. 1=manual 1st gear. 2=second to last position. 3=drive. 4=overdrive. 5=neutral. 6=reverse. 7=park"

This is the report from Blade35, He is one that requested this gauge and has the truck that is an 03.

It worked these are the values I came up with when I moved the gear selector
transmission range sensor values
park=140
reverse=120
neutral=100
drive=92 and remained the same through out the driving range 12356
3rd= 46
2nd=44
1st=42

Do you guys come up with the same readings?

Thanks to everyone that is helping with the testing of all these gauges!!

And, again, thanks James for all you have done for this great tool you have!

dieselmac
04-25-2011, 01:47 AM
That works. Thanks a bunch!

I guess I was a bit quick on the celebration. After driving around this weekend, it's still not reading correctly (MAT). It reads way low for post compressor and CAC temps.

There are 2 sensors that detect intake air temps. 1) Air inlet temp. This is at the MAF sensor just downstream of the filter. It should be reading about ambient going down the road. 2) Manifold air temp. This is downstream of the compressor, CAC, and EGR inlet at the intake manifold. Depending on operating conditions, it will read quite a but higher than inlet air temps since it's post compression.

The DigitalGauge reading *FIA seems to have the inlet air temp covered. So, my dilemma is trying to sort out which PID is for manifold air temp? MAT(16E0) or IAT2(16A8)? or both? I'm beginning to think they are the same parameter but one is converted to *F.

Linear Logic
04-25-2011, 05:56 PM
So, these didn't work either for the 03 trucks being tested on:

Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor Voltage
TXD: 07E02216AE
RXF: 0462451606AE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001309C40000
NAM: EPV

Fan Speed Sensor Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022091F
RXF: 04624509061F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 013103E80000
NAM: FDC

Exhaust Back Pressure (-0.5 PSI bias)
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D0050FFFB
NAM: EBP

EBP
Exhaust Back Pressure
07E0221445
046285140645
3010
001D00500000
EBP

Might be a PCM issue? With the program for that year?

There are a lot of possibilities really. Are there any other scanners out there that read this information on the 03's? If something else can access this info, then it's just a matter of figuring out why the XGauges that normally work don't for the 03's. If nothing can read this info, then it may simply not be reported. Can't imagine why they wouldn't report this, but it's possible.

I guess I was a bit quick on the celebration. After driving around this weekend, it's still not reading correctly (MAT). It reads way low for post compressor and CAC temps.

There are 2 sensors that detect intake air temps. 1) Air inlet temp. This is at the MAF sensor just downstream of the filter. It should be reading about ambient going down the road. 2) Manifold air temp. This is downstream of the compressor, CAC, and EGR inlet at the intake manifold. Depending on operating conditions, it will read quite a but higher than inlet air temps since it's post compression.

The DigitalGauge reading *FIA seems to have the inlet air temp covered. So, my dilemma is trying to sort out which PID is for manifold air temp? MAT(16E0) or IAT2(16A8)? or both? I'm beginning to think they are the same parameter but one is converted to *F.

One thing we can do to try and confirm that at least the temperature readings are in the correct metric (Fahrenheit) is to have the truck sit until it's equalized with the ambient temperature and then turn the key into the on position while leaving the engine off. Since the key is on the ECU will respond to requests from the ScanGauge, but since the engine is off there won't be engine heat introduced into the system. Check out the gauge readings for IAT2, MAT, and FIA. They all should be fairly close to ambient temperatures, so if you see a reading of 21 when it's 70 degrees F outside - we know there's a conversion issue.

Also, try to do this with the vehicle shaded from sunlight. The extra heat from the sunlight can heat up the internal temperatures of the vehicle well beyond ambient air temp.

Mdub707
04-25-2011, 07:07 PM
Where's a good place to get one of these? Been toying with the idea. Thanks.

Linear Logic
04-25-2011, 07:19 PM
Where's a good place to get one of these? Been toying with the idea. Thanks.
I know AutoZones in California, Texas, and Florida have ScanGauges in stock. Outside those states you can still special order the ScanGauge from any AutoZone (part number SG2) and have it delivered the next day.

If you have a Camping World near by they will also have units in stock.

There's also Amazon.com, JCWhitney.com, and of course ScanGauge.com

You can also view our list of retailers (http://www.scangauge.com/buy/northamerica.shtml) that should cover any other locations that weren't mentioned above.

Mdub707
04-25-2011, 08:09 PM
Sorry for the hijack! Thanks Linear Logic!

dieselmac
04-26-2011, 04:06 AM
Got mine from Amazon.com. $159 w/free shipping.

dieselmac
04-26-2011, 04:08 AM
One thing we can do to try and confirm that at least the temperature readings are in the correct metric (Fahrenheit) is to have the truck sit until it's equalized with the ambient temperature and then turn the key into the on position while leaving the engine off. Since the key is on the ECU will respond to requests from the ScanGauge, but since the engine is off there won't be engine heat introduced into the system. Check out the gauge readings for IAT2, MAT, and FIA. They all should be fairly close to ambient temperatures, so if you see a reading of 21 when it's 70 degrees F outside - we know there's a conversion issue.

Also, try to do this with the vehicle shaded from sunlight. The extra heat from the sunlight can heat up the internal temperatures of the vehicle well beyond ambient air temp.

Good idea. I'll give it a try one night this week.

dieselmac
05-01-2011, 12:51 AM
One thing we can do to try and confirm that at least the temperature readings are in the correct metric (Fahrenheit) is to have the truck sit until it's equalized with the ambient temperature and then turn the key into the on position while leaving the engine off. Since the key is on the ECU will respond to requests from the ScanGauge, but since the engine is off there won't be engine heat introduced into the system. Check out the gauge readings for IAT2, MAT, and FIA. They all should be fairly close to ambient temperatures, so if you see a reading of 21 when it's 70 degrees F outside - we know there's a conversion issue.

Also, try to do this with the vehicle shaded from sunlight. The extra heat from the sunlight can heat up the internal temperatures of the vehicle well beyond ambient air temp.

That did the trick. I got MAT and IAT2 to match. As they should.

MAT is 2*C per bit. So the gauge for an '06 should be:

TXD: 07E02216E0
RXF: 0462051606E0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001200050020

Ouch
05-18-2011, 12:04 PM
Are these codes for the X gauges only for 6.0's?

amdriven2liv
05-19-2011, 08:24 PM
Well, they are all Ford gauges. I'm not familiar with Gas Super Duties, So I really can't answer that. Some have been working on 6.4L

Ouch
05-19-2011, 08:47 PM
I have a 7.3 and I couldnt get it to pull my codes...? Aeroforce pulled them...

RocknRoll
05-20-2011, 11:25 PM
Just thought i would share, pulled our toy on a quick weekend trip and coming home battery light came on. I knew it could be one of two things, bad battery or alternator. I just replaced the alternator 5 months prior and haven't had any issues since. While driving and still 200+ miles away from home, switched to my "volts" setting on my scangauge and saw 11.7, bat was 11 as well. I knew immediately my alternator gave up while i was driving via my scangauge. I can't tell you how convenient it was to trouble shoot the truck while it was still running, and somewhat diagnose before it quit on me. Scangauge ftw!!!:bowfast:

amdriven2liv
06-04-2011, 11:50 PM
Ok, so, can we get "FICMSYNC" for these?

dieselmac
06-05-2011, 02:34 AM
I have two different ones. I tried them both in my truck this evening and get a 0. Sync should = 1. So, either I have a sync issue or they don't work. Maybe see if you get something different?

TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3000
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

The other one is identical except for RXD: 3001.

Let me know how they work.

amdriven2liv
06-07-2011, 12:51 AM
Thanks, I'll try it tomorrow.

amdriven2liv
06-07-2011, 11:20 PM
I tried those 2 ways for FICMsync, didn't work on my 04. Maybe a newer year?

For fun I tried changing the RXD to a couple of often used ones, and found one, don't remember which, gave me a reading the would change from 3 to 7 then to 3 to 7. Constant. I have since deleted the total code.

dieselmac
06-08-2011, 02:28 AM
Didn't work on my '06. I got the same thing with the 3 and 7. I think it was with the RXD: 3010.

There has to be a way to get this. Maybe James will chime in here and show us the way.

Linear Logic
06-10-2011, 08:40 PM
Didn't work on my '06. I got the same thing with the 3 and 7. I think it was with the RXD: 3010.

There has to be a way to get this. Maybe James will chime in here and show us the way.

Try an RXD of 3601.

Essentially the RXD is two parts. The first two characters (or the first byte) tells the ScanGauge how many bits into the response message to start picking up data. In this case the bit we're after is the 55th bit in the response, so we want the ScanGauge to being taking information right after the 54th bit so we use the hexadecimal equivalent of 54 which is 36. The last two characters (or last byte) of the RXD tells the ScanGauge how many bits of information to collect from the response. Since we're after 1 bit, we input 01.

dieselmac
06-10-2011, 09:53 PM
Thanks! It'll be Monday before I can try it but I definitely will.

Just curious. How do you know we should be looking at the 55th bit? Do you have a secret decoder book?LOL or is there some way we could tell. I tried entering the TXD (07E02209CD) into the Commands to see what the response was. I was hoping the result would be somewhere in the response. All I got back was 47 and a bunch of 0's. I understand the 47 (40 + the original 07 request) but what's up with the 0's. Are we just not able to see enough places for the response? Or am I just confused and fishing without bait?

Thanks again.

sdunham
06-11-2011, 04:32 PM
Long story short, my 2004 6.0 TD runs like crap, always has... Read this thread, bought a ScangaugeII and programmed it today with the following results from a cold engine... Pretty sure my FICM needs the "FICM Repair" procedure which I've downloaded in the past... Please check these numbers out and let me know if you agree and if there are any other red flags here...

FVP=10.5 - 13.5 @ idle, cold engine
FLP=11 - 13
FMP=45.5 - 48.5
EBP= 12.7 - 12.9 @ idle, increaseed throttle 16 - 17
ICP=976 @ idle
VGT= 75 @ idle
HPR= 10.1 - 10.3 @ idle
IPR=30.2 @ idle
VLT=12 engine off and 14.8 engine running

Both Optima Batteries are at 12.8 engine off and 14.8 engine on tested with a VOM... This truck has always suffered from the "cold engine, dead pedal" problem where it will not move in gear until the engine runs for 5 - 10 minutes minimum to warm up... THERE ARE NO DTC'S WHEN I TRIED TO PULL THEM WITH THE SCANGAUGEII AND THE SCT X-CAL3 TUNER...
Thanks in advance... And also, Thanks to the guys who put all the work into this thread... It sure would be nice to get this truck running right for a change after years and years of trying...:(

Linear Logic
06-13-2011, 08:59 PM
Thanks! It'll be Monday before I can try it but I definitely will.

Just curious. How do you know we should be looking at the 55th bit? Do you have a secret decoder book?LOL or is there some way we could tell.
I have a document that outlines a lot of Ford PIDs.


I tried entering the TXD (07E02209CD) into the Commands to see what the response was. I was hoping the result would be somewhere in the response. All I got back was 47 and a bunch of 0's. I understand the 47 (40 + the original 07 request) but what's up with the 0's. Are we just not able to see enough places for the response? Or am I just confused and fishing without bait?

The Commands feature is tricky to use sometimes. For the CAN protocol (which the 6.0's run on) there are certain pieces of info that are filled in by the XGauge feature with regard to the TXD, so XGauge TXD's don't really match up to exactly what would needed to be sent properly with the commands feature.

I personally use the XGauge feature to step through responses when I need instead of trying to capture the full response with the commands feature. All you need to do is take any XGauge and change the 5th digit in the RXF to 1 (this will tell the ScanGauge to display the raw hex values reported by the ECU) and adjust the RXD to whatever segment of the response you want to view.

So say you wanted to step through the response for the Sync XGauge you'd set it up as follows

TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462150906CD (Notice the '1' in the 5th digit = display raw hex value)
RXD: 0010 (This effectively states "start from bit 0 in the response, and capture 16 bits (or two bytes) to display)
MTH: 000100010000 (This MTH is needed as it just multiplies by 1 and divides by 1 to leave the data unconverted
NAM: WD1 (Short for Word 1 so I know this is the 1st Word (word is another way of saying '2 bytes') in the response.

You can step through the whole response by using RXD's 0010, 1010, 2010, 3010, 4010.

If you would rather see the whole response at once in the commands feature try using the string 07E0032209CD - I think that might work.

dieselmac
06-13-2011, 10:31 PM
Thanks!!!! This little device never ceases to amaze me.

amdriven2liv
06-13-2011, 11:27 PM
Hey James, what kind of LAN cable did you use to link 2 SGII's together? A few folks want to know. Me included.

Linear Logic
06-14-2011, 09:05 PM
Hey James, what kind of LAN cable did you use to link 2 SGII's together? A few folks want to know. Me included.
I believe it's standard CAT5 Networking cable.

amdriven2liv
06-15-2011, 02:58 AM
I believe it's standard CAT5 Networking cable.

Thanks, I have a couple of those in the closet.

amdriven2liv
06-17-2011, 12:32 AM
Thanks! It'll be Monday before I can try it but I definitely will.



Well, did you try it? (FICM-sync)

I just haven't had the time.

dieselmac
06-17-2011, 03:18 AM
Haven't had time either. Been working obnoxiously long days. I should get to it tomorrow evening.

rschwarzwalder
06-17-2011, 10:38 AM
I've been lurking quite a while but had the same problems with the sync showing a zero or blank. Tried the new RXD, now works great just as an FYI! I also saw the new RXD posted on another forum too.

05 Excursion w/ 9/05 6.0 engine

amdriven2liv
06-17-2011, 01:51 PM
I've been lurking quite a while but had the same problems with the sync showing a zero or blank. Tried the new RXD, now works great just as an FYI! I also saw the new RXD posted on another forum too.

05 Excursion w/ 9/05 6.0 engine

Great, I have time this morning it looks like. So I'll try it. Then a quick video of all 4 FICM Xgauges working. (My FICM is going south I see, so you will see readings that show a problem developing)

Sean

amdriven2liv
06-17-2011, 03:26 PM
Well, here are the readings. The video is boring, and some of my comments are kinda stupid. But it is what it is.

Yes, I know my FICM is going south, and will be getting that issue dealt with.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_sMIjaFF3o

amdriven2liv
06-17-2011, 07:09 PM
Just found out the video was set to private, should be working now.

dieselmac
06-17-2011, 08:16 PM
Have you had your batteries checked? and alternator? Your FVP dropped awful quick when you went to KOEO. I would think good batteries could maintain the 12.5v longer than they did. Then again, it could all be internal to the FICM. Just thinking out loud.

No doubt your FICM is bad. Would hate to see bad batteries or alternator kill a new one.

amdriven2liv
06-17-2011, 11:12 PM
Just got new bats last year. But will double check everything before I run a fixed FICM through it.

Thanks for the input.

Anyone else want to show theirs?

RickF350
06-18-2011, 12:04 AM
Here is mine
KOEO and glow plugs on the fICM reads 48-48.5 FMP, 11.5 FLP,11.5 FVP and 11.8 VLT
KOEO and glow plugs off the FICM reads 48-48.5 FMP, 12 FLP, 12 FVP and 12.2 VLT

amdriven2liv
06-18-2011, 12:24 AM
Here is mine
KOEO and glow plugs on the fICM reads 48-48.5 FMP, 11.5 FLP,11.5 FVP and 11.8 VLT
KOEO and glow plugs off the FICM reads 48-48.5 FMP, 12 FLP, 12 FVP and 12.2 VLT

Thanks for your input.

I have had the FICM gauges for a while now. (since this thread started) Mine were just like yours. This is how quick a FICM can change.

amdriven2liv
07-06-2011, 12:06 AM
Has anyone entered the ICP volts gauge?

Has it worked on an 03-04?

Has it worked on an 05-07?

It hasn't worked on my 04.

Would like to hear if it has worked on any of the model years.

Maybe James could jump in and maybe help get this one up and running.

ICP Voltage (Volts)

TXD: 07E02216AD

RXF: 0462451606AD

RXD: 3010

MTH: 004827100000

NAM: ICV

Rick C
07-06-2011, 07:20 PM
I've just gotta chime in and say that everyone that has contributed to this indespensable volume of work deserves huge props. I'm a new subscriber and am duly impressed. Just got my SG2 yesterday and cant wait to dive in. The whole math thing makes my head swim a bit...but...being one to just (Dec 10) get into the 6.0 PS dungeon with my 05 F450...it is slowly turning from grief to fun. To the admin...Sticky with or without the 300th Gauge! And to James from ScanGauge/Linear Logic...great product support.

dieselmac
07-10-2011, 05:53 PM
Has anyone entered the ICP volts gauge?

Has it worked on an 03-04?

Has it worked on an 05-07?

It hasn't worked on my 04.

Would like to hear if it has worked on any of the model years.

Maybe James could jump in and maybe help get this one up and running.

ICP Voltage (Volts)

TXD: 07E02216AD

RXF: 0462451606AD

RXD: 3010

MTH: 004827100000

NAM: ICV

Works on my '06.

amdriven2liv
07-10-2011, 10:58 PM
Works on my '06.

Yeah, Thanks!

All right, I'll blow the whistle on my self.

I had RXD from ICP codes in place of the correct one for ICP volts!!!:( :pointlaugh:


Sean

amdriven2liv
07-11-2011, 10:56 PM
Ok, here is a question. I just noticed that the EOT in this thread is different than the one that used to be in the book of Xgauges on SGII's website.

This one has a decimal point in it.

Anyone using the one with the decimal point?

This is the one in this thread.

7E0221310
046245130610
3010
00090005F05F (00090005FFD8 was posted on another thread, I used the one out of the Xgauge pdf)
EOT

The one I'm using is this: (and have used it from the beginning)

TXD=07E0221310
RXF=046205130610
RXD=3010
MTH=000901F4FFD8

This one has no decimal in the reading.

amdriven2liv
07-11-2011, 11:57 PM
Quick little video on entering a Xgauge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eByS3S6iiMY&feature=player_embedded

amdriven2liv
07-12-2011, 01:28 AM
A video on the set-up of a Scangauge II (not done by me)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bwajp9HskE&feature=related

dieselmac
07-12-2011, 03:03 AM
Ok, here is a question. I just noticed that the EOT in this thread is different than the one that used to be in the book of Xgauges on SGII's website.

This one has a decimal point in it.

Anyone using the one with the decimal point?

This is the one in this thread.

7E0221310
046245130610
3010
00090005F05F (00090005FFD8 was posted on another thread, I used the one out of the Xgauge pdf)
EOT

The one I'm using is this: (and have used it from the beginning)

TXD=07E0221310
RXF=046205130610
RXD=3010
MTH=000901F4FFD8

This one has no decimal in the reading.

Yes, I'm using the first one but do not get a decimal point. Wonder why?

dieselmac
07-12-2011, 03:30 AM
Okay, James. If you're still out there I've got a question for ya'. Everything is working, I just can't figure out why.

I was looking at the 2 EOT PID's in the above post and got side tracked on the MTH. I'm using the following XGauge for EOT:

TXD: 07E0221310
RXF: 046245130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00090005F05F

The MTH starts out as a conversion from *C to *F (*9/5). Or at least I think it does. But what is the F05F for? I get that it's a negative number (4001?) but if it's really a C to F conversion, where is the +32 part of the conversion?

Or is the *9/5 just some sort of scaling? and I'm confusing it for the beginning of the C to F conversion?

What's driving me nuts is all this works. If I take F05F out of MTH I get a value about 41* higher than what it should be. But F05F is -4001?

Thanks in advance.

Linear Logic
07-13-2011, 08:30 PM
Okay, James. If you're still out there I've got a question for ya'. Everything is working, I just can't figure out why.

I was looking at the 2 EOT PID's in the above post and got side tracked on the MTH. I'm using the following XGauge for EOT:

TXD: 07E0221310
RXF: 046245130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00090005F05F

The MTH starts out as a conversion from *C to *F (*9/5). Or at least I think it does. But what is the F05F for? I get that it's a negative number (4001?) but if it's really a C to F conversion, where is the +32 part of the conversion?

Or is the *9/5 just some sort of scaling? and I'm confusing it for the beginning of the C to F conversion?

What's driving me nuts is all this works. If I take F05F out of MTH I get a value about 41* higher than what it should be. But F05F is -4001?

Thanks in advance.

You're correct about the 9/5 being a conversion from *C to *F. The F05F part gets a little tricky though.

The F05F is -4001. It was intended to be -4000, but I just now realized the correct hex value for -4000 is F060. I'll make sure to correct that on our XGauge page. Anyway, there is a reason for it, although it may be slightly difficult to explain clearly but I will try.

Ford biased this temperature sensor down 40 degrees, so that when the temp sensor voltage bottomed out and reported 0 it would effectively represent -40 degrees Celsius. The hexadecimal value reported by the ECU for this temperature is set up so that each bit represents 0.01 degrees Celsius. If you combine this with the bias, you can convert the hex value reported by the ECU directly to Celsius by dividing by 100 and then subtracting 40. For example 03E8h = 1000 in decimal -> 1000/100 - 40 = -30C.

Now, -40 degrees is kind of a neat value to use as the origin since -40 degrees Fahrenheit is the same as -40 degrees Celsius (-40F * 9 / 5 + 32 = -40C). Because -40 is used as the origin the regular formula for Celsius to Fahrenheit of 9/5 +32 doesn't apply since that formula is based on an origin point of 0 Degrees Celsius and the +32 needed to be added so that *0C = *32F. Instead we just need the 9/5 then subtract 40.

Ultimately it comes down to the -40 bias. If you had a hex value that equated to 10,000 after the division by 100 you end up with 100*C. Now if you apply the -40 bias first, you end up with the actual value 60*C which equates to 140*F using the regular *C to *F formula (60 * 9 / 5 +32 = 140). Applying the bias at the end results in the same value without using the +32 conversion. (100 * 9 / 5) - 40 = 140.

You might be wondering why we use -4000 instead of just -40. Well, that has to do with something that was set in the RXF. In the 5th digit you'll notice it's a 4. That tells the ScanGauge to do two things, divide the incoming value by 100 and to show the value out to two decimal places when possible. I wasn't really after the decimal places (although if your EOT gets down into single digits you'll be able to see out to two decimal places), but rather I was after the divide by 100 aspect. If you remember earlier, I showed that converting this temp sensors hex value to Celsius it required a division by 100 - so I slipped that divide by 100 in by using the RXF. The tricky part about using the RXF for that purpose is that it will also divide the add/subtract field of the MTH by 100 as well. If the value was just -40 it would have been divided by 100 and it would have only subtracted 0.4 - hence -4000 since -4000/100 = -40.

I know all of that is a bit much, but hopefully it makes sense. If it doesn't make sense, you're not alone. I spent weeks trying to figure this all out when I first began working with XGauges haha.

amdriven2liv
07-13-2011, 10:24 PM
So, I should be using this code:

TXD: 07E0221310
RXF: 046245130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00090005 F05F

except use "F060" instead?