2006 6.0L connecting rods

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what material that the 6.0L rods are made of- are they PMRs? What hp are they good to or should I say at what hp does a person have to worry about upgrading them before bending/carnage? Anyone out there running Crower rods in their 6.0L? Just trying to look torwards future mods. Thanks

I know they are PMRs

And I Know that hypermax makes a set of rods for the 6.0L

I would venture to say they will hold up to 500HP pretty well. They are PMRs, but the design is much stouter than a 7.3 rod, for example. They have the offset big end like the 5.9 has.

I had one apart some time ago and I though they looked nice for PMR's On a side note I want to mod the girl in your avitar, Thats just smokin hot, LOL.

Dan

The stock rods can handle 790+ hp. I am not sure for how long though.

I think Jeff aka IgotIt is running aftermarket rods.

The stock rods can handle 790+ hp. I am not sure for how long though.


well you are definitely gonna show us how long they last!! now get to a 1/4 mile quick!!

I know they are PMRs

And I Know that hypermax makes a set of rods for the 6.0L

That's what I thought they were PMRs. Sorry man, if I'm spending my coin it's for a set of rods from a proven company. I'd like to know how many people are running the Hyper rods though.

I would venture to say they will hold up to 500HP pretty well. They are PMRs, but the design is much stouter than a 7.3 rod, for example. They have the offset big end like the 5.9 has.

Wonder why it took Ford so long to figure out the offset rod, lol? Looks like the 7.3L had crappy rods and the 6.0L cannot keep it's heads on straight...cannot wait to see what their problems are in the 6.4L:doh:

I had one apart some time ago and I though they looked nice for PMR's On a side note I want to mod the girl in your avitar, Thats just smokin hot, LOL.

Dan

You say that but she couldn't/wouldn't cook and she refused to clean or do the laundry. Hell, when at home all she wore around the house was a pair of them little tiny victoria secret panties that look like a very small, tight pair of shorts. And talk about wild- she had sex on the mind all the time! It was a wild ride- the relationship. And even after everything we went thru it was over in a flash.....I woke up and haven't had that dream again! ...:hehe:LMAO

The stock rods can handle 790+ hp. I am not sure for how long though.

So raceday do you have the highest hp w/stock rods in the 6.0L section? How often do you run your truck? How long have you been at your current hp level? I guess you are out of the daily drivability range?


What got me thinking about the rod swap is something I've been hearing alot about modding the 6.0L and losing my factory warranty. I keep hearing "if it's built right then you don't need the factory warranty" :lookaround::shrug: So I guess if a person went ahead and tossed in a set of Crowers then the rods would never be an issue then?

That's what I thought they were PMRs. Sorry man, if I'm spending my coin it's for a set of rods from a proven company. I'd like to know how many people are running the Hyper rods though.

Um You don't think HyperMax is a Proven company? :poke:



Wonder why it took Ford so long to figure out the offset rod, lol? Looks like the 7.3L had crappy rods and the 6.0L cannot keep it's heads on straight...cannot wait to see what their problems are in the 6.4L:doh:

Ummm Dont you mean International?



You say that but she couldn't/wouldn't cook and she refused to clean or do the laundry. Hell, when at home all she wore around the house was a pair of them little tiny victoria secret panties that look like a very small, tight pair of shorts. And talk about wild- she had sex on the mind all the time! It was a wild ride- the relationship. And even after everything we went thru it was over in a flash.....I woke up and haven't had that dream again! ...:hehe:LMAO

;)


So raceday do you have the highest hp w/stock rods in the 6.0L section? How often do you run your truck? How long have you been at your current hp level? I guess you are out of the daily drivability range?

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What got me thinking about the rod swap is something I've been hearing alot about modding the 6.0L and losing my factory warranty. I keep hearing "if it's built right then you don't need the factory warranty" :lookaround::shrug: So I guess if a person went ahead and tossed in a set of Crowers then the rods would never be an issue then?

I would worry alot more about the heads then I would the Rods.

Crowers and Cunningham both have rods out there. Who here has thrown a rod because of HP? Unbroken Doesnt count. Deadblow may be have some #s and a windowed block this weekend, Fuel only, then med. nitrous, then Clean up the 430s :shrug:

Why doesn't Unbroken count?

[B]So raceday do you have the highest hp w/stock rods in the 6.0L section? How often do you run your truck? How long have you been at your current hp level? I guess you are out of the daily drivability range?

I believe he has the highest known hp period right now, although there seem to be some others in the works. I believe he still drives the truck regularly also.

He was just going down the highway and it chunked. But he is one of vary few who have ever windowed a 6.0 block. He beat the hell out of that thing too.

I believe he has the highest known hp period right now, although there seem to be some others in the works. I believe he still drives the truck regularly also.

He has the highest with stock rods. The highest with aftermarket rods is 921HP.

and who's claiming 921, i bent all 8 connecting rods, all the valves, push rods, but thats what happens when you have a bad back fire, me and my buddy are running hypermax rods, the quality of there rods is awesome. the stock rods all wieght different between them, the hypermax rods are all balanced with each other so you get a balanced set.

He has the highest with stock rods. The highest with aftermarket rods is 921HP.

Is this the one that no one will say who, where, what, how still? Are they ever gonna bring the truck out of hiding? Like I said, highest KNOWN hp.

He has the highest with stock rods. The highest with aftermarket rods is 921HP.

If somebody or people are making 921HP in a 6.0 what the hell are they doing with it?

Logan, where are yall running this weekend?

Logan, where are yall running this weekend?

My guess is the dyno thing in Buda.....

My guess is the dyno thing in Buda.....

correct!

oh yeah, im an idiot. You gonna be there Garrett? Thinking bout going to the sunday deal but not sure.

Man, I would love to......but I have a ton of stuff to take care of this weekend. Harlan called me yesterday on it. It totally slipped my mind. :doh:

He has the highest with stock rods. The highest with aftermarket rods is 921HP.

Wow, I'd like to see!

He was just going down the highway and it chunked. But he is one of vary few who have ever windowed a 6.0 block. He beat the hell out of that thing too.

Umm, that's how 99% of rods blow. They're fractured or comprimised and then break later.

Mine broke that way, Boggerr's broke that way, Dockboy broke many that way, Mike's 7.3 broke that way... etc... etc... etc....

"That's what I thought they were PMRs. Sorry man, if I'm spending my coin it's for a set of rods from a proven company. I'd like to know how many people are running the Hyper rods though".

Um You don't think HyperMax is a Proven company?
Company- YES, Rods- No, I think that to be proven more people need to buy and use them at a higher hp. I see in this thread Redneck is using them but they need to be put out there for awhile using different setups IMO. Also they say "Supports 2000 BHP on diesel fuel only"- How much RWHP is BHP?

"Wonder why it took Ford so long to figure out the offset rod, lol? Looks like the 7.3L had crappy rods and the 6.0L cannot keep it's heads on straight...cannot wait to see what their problems are in the 6.4L"

Ummm Dont you mean International?- Nope, I mean FORD. My truck has a FORD POWERSTROKE DIESEL in it. Ford is the one I bought it from, Ford is the one that ok'd the design, and Ford is the one that warrants it.

I would worry alot more about the heads then I would the Rods.

I'm a strong believer of modding everything;) What good is getting the heads just right if you end up having to pull them to fix rods or have to chuck them because of damage from something internally? Start with the inside and work out is what I think. The heads would be getting fire rings, H11 bolts, and lots of silicone and duct tape:eek::poke: But seriously, it would have to be done right if I was going to have to burn the warranty book:doh:

and who's claiming 921, i bent all 8 connecting rods, all the valves, push rods, but thats what happens when you have a bad back fire, me and my buddy are running hypermax rods, the quality of there rods is awesome. the stock rods all wieght different between them, the hypermax rods are all balanced with each other so you get a balanced set.
How much HP are you putting out redneck?

He was just going down the highway and it chunked. But he is one of vary few who have ever windowed a 6.0 block. He beat the hell out of that thing too.


That's something that I'd prefer not to happen to me if preventable :doh: This is why I'm asking about the rods, lol.
So Logan what's going back in?

CROWER DOES NOT HAVE 6.0 RODS yet. Trust me 7 months and counting, and pissed off.

CROWER DOES NOT HAVE 6.0 RODS yet. Trust me 7 months and counting, and pissed off.

Wanna Bet??? Ask IGotIt what kind of rods are in his truck, And ive held fuzzys!

Deadblows will go back together with a set of Crowers, We have a spare block and another set of heads.

Ok so lets count UnBroken, Thats one 6.0, all others i have seen were due to hydrolocking on stock engines. Tuning helps with the life of Rods.

how can deadblow, igotit and fuzzy all have rods and tim not have them?

CROWER DOES NOT HAVE 6.0 RODS yet. Trust me 7 months and counting, and pissed off.

Wanna Bet??? Ask IGotIt what kind of rods are in his truck, And ive held fuzzys! <---That don't even sound right Logan:lookaround:

Deadblows will go back together with a set of Crowers, We have a spare block and another set of heads.

Ok so lets count UnBroken, Thats one 6.0, all others i have seen were due to hydrolocking on stock engines. Tuning helps with the life of Rods.

Dal-Crower has them- 8wk wait, but they have them. Part number B93022B-8, the company I'd be buying thru just called them yesterday or day before and they said 6-8wks ETA once ordered.

I wrote a check for mine on Oct 11th in front of Timbeaux, Phil baker, Amish, and Lou preston, and I still do not have them. WHen did you guys order. I have been hearing 4-8 weeks for 7 months. WHo did you talk to, and whos ass is about to get reamed?

IGotit has Cunningham rods.

Crowers are expected to be ready in a couple months.

If you need something soon, Hypermax rods are in stock.

Lubeowner is getting Hypermax rods in his motor.

The stock rods will take some serious abuse, so 700 RWHP + start looking at rods.

Thanks Brian, my blood pressure was getting more inflated than Lotts head. LOL Sorry David. LOL

Thanks Brian, my blood pressure was getting more inflated than Lotts head. LOL Sorry David. LOL

:D

Best person to call and ask is Dave Crower and ask him when their availability will begin.

Thanks Brian, my blood pressure was getting more inflated than Lotts head. LOL Sorry David. LOL

Call Hypermax and get the rods and you still have time to throw the motor together in time to debut Deranged in Bowling Green. :poke::D

Well the problem is that I want the compression dropped quite a bit. I ordered Reduced compression height on the pistons, but with the amount I had to take off the block and heads to get them straight, I needed to go further, so the rods I ordered were another 15 thou reduced. I already have talked to Ron at Hmax about getting some rods. BG is not going to happen with the ranger, but Steele AL is looking good.

Ahh I C . I knew you were behind a lil bit. Just ribbin.

I do have Cunninghams. Last time I talked to Jim there he had two sets on the shelf for sale.

Dal I dealt with the same thing when Cunningham was designing the rods. When I sent them two new rods they said 4-6 weeks. I paid in full and I had prototypes to pack with clay and test 9 months later. I finally received the actual rods over a year later. I know how it is to wait.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what material that the 6.0L rods are made of- are they PMRs? What hp are they good to or should I say at what hp does a person have to worry about upgrading them before bending/carnage? Anyone out there running Crower rods in their 6.0L? Just trying to look torwards future mods. Thanks

i havent' read all of the responses to this yet, so if it's already been covered my apologies,
no you do NOT have the same crappy pmr's from the 7.3 dont worry... your rods should take you well past 600RWHP with no problems.. i wouldnt start to get concerned until you get over about 650, but even then i have seen a PSD put close to 700 to the wheels on stock rods, but i doubt it would do it for long...
hypermax makes some rods for the PSD, but they are pricey.
i would do PnP heads, firerings, studs, ceramics, before i would worry about rods... i'm going with ceramic coated factory pistons, and still have the factory rods in my motor at 628HP

Deadblow did 634 on fuel only, with factory rods. Not sure how true that reading was due to the fact that the dyno operator had no idea what he was doing.

Was that this past weekend? I was wondering how that went. What were some of the other results?

I just started a thread in the dyno section on Deadblow and Crowbar. :D

Jim @ Cunningham rods told me that he has 18 or 19 rods that NEED TO BE FINISHED. So yes they have them...but they are not finished yet. He said if I ordered them that day, it would be about 3-4 weeks.

So I bought a brand new set of Cunningham rods from "03Blackwidow". (He is going a different route now.)

Them sure are purdy Extended! What's the price tag on a set of Cunningham rods for the 6.0L?

Them sure are purdy Extended! What's the price tag on a set of Cunningham rods for the 6.0L?

I got them for $2900.00:redspotdance:

I got a quote for $450.00/rod $3600.00 a set.:doh:

there's no reason to spend that much money on rods, people jack the price up just because of supply/demand.

how many small block chevy rods are there that handle that kind of power , now tell me anyone in their right mind that would spend that much kind of money on rods for a 1000HP SBchevy motor ?? no one

there's no reason to spend that much money on rods, people jack the price up just because of supply/demand.

Jeez...your right. I should have left the stock rods in. That way, when the power level I want is reached, the money I saved could be spent on......aftermarket rods, cuz the stock ones vented the block.

You spend your money....

I'll spend mine thank you.

Another thing...what the hell are you comparing a 6.0L FORD Diesel to a Chevy Gas pot for anyway???
Maybe you should price out a set of "Stock" pistons for the Ford 6.0L from the dealer...or maybe the rod bearings, or the gasket set...
Have you ever heard of: "If you wanna play, you gotta pay"?

Boy I sure hope nothing happens to your truck's engine, cuz you couldn't afford to fix it.....oh, that's right...you want to run a Chevy small block instead....good luck with that.

it's not a game, if they could sell hundreds of sets a month the price would come down. i bet they're not even selling one or two hundred sets a year - if a vendor sees this and wants to share that'd be great, i am sure whatever the number it's small beans compared to the number of SBC/BBC rods sold.

Cunningham's are over priced in the 6.0L & 7.3L IMHO, I wouldn't go much if any over $2500...which is about a set of Crowers;) BUT with that said my money's mine.

Another thing...what the hell are you comparing a 6.0L FORD Diesel to a Chevy Gas pot for anyway???
Maybe you should price out a set of "Stock" pistons for the Ford 6.0L from the dealer...or maybe the rod bearings, or the gasket set...
Have you ever heard of: "If you wanna play, you gotta pay"?

Boy I sure hope nothing happens to your truck's engine, cuz you couldn't afford to fix it.....oh, that's right...you want to run a Chevy small block instead....good luck with that.

first off you can shove that attitude up your ass ... if you would read what i wrote you would understand. i never said to run a SBC motor.. i was merely saying that because of the shear quantity (millions) of SBC motors on the road, and the enormous amount of aftermarket parts available for them, that the prices of things such as rods etc are considerably cheaper because of supply and demand, and competition in the marketplace... IF, i say IF there were more people buying things such as rods/pistons for our motors, and IF there were more companies competeting for their chunk or our money, the prices would not be as ridiculously high as they are currently...
FOR EXAMPLE (i'll say it again since you didn't understand it the first time )
you can buy a set of rods for a SBC that will hold up to the same power or even more power than that same set of 6.0 rods mentioned above for a fraction of the price of the rods listed above...
hence the reason i said, and i meant "there is NO reason to SPEND that much money on rods" .. i NEVER said there was no reason to BUY rods, obviously the stock ones will only handle so much power.
and for the record, there ARE a/m rods available for the 6.0 that do NOT cost as much as the ones mentioned above,

are rods necessary ??? yes of course, but you probably are nowhere near the power level where you need to be worrying about them anyway.
is paying almost 4K a set necessary ??? no

and YES i have priced new pistons, bearings, gaskets, etc from ford. i have bought new ones from ford. and i CAN afford it. one thing you don't wanna do is start comparing ability to pay for things with me, i CAN and HAVE built my motor from the ground up. i never compared the 6oh to a gasser except to say how market volume dictates pricing, not the actual cost to manufacture the part. the EXACT same rod that do the EXACT same thing can be charged two very different prices depending on what market it's going to ... you ever priced a piston/rod for a ferrari 360 modena ?? are you gonna tell me my italian overpriced rod is stronger or better than the rods in my SBC that cost me 30% as much and are making 300 more HP ??

check you attitude at the door man, people are coming here to learn things and to talk about their projects that they're proud of, not listen to someone who has nothing helpful to say just spout technobabble to sound knowledgable... just because my budget is higher than the next guys doesn't mean i have to pay too much for things. when you get the training wheels off your 6.0 and you actually NEED a strong rod, i'd be more than willing to tell you where to get one (or 8) at a reasonable price.
rant over, relax man i wasn't trying to bash, but if you're gonna dish it out ya gotta be able to take it.

it's not a game, if they could sell hundreds of sets a month the price would come down. i bet they're not even selling one or two hundred sets a year - if a vendor sees this and wants to share that'd be great, i am sure whatever the number it's small beans compared to the number of SBC/BBC rods sold.

look there ^^^ someone was bright enough to realize exactly the point i was trying to make, thank you Dark

Cunningham's are over priced in the 6.0L & 7.3L IMHO, I wouldn't go much if any over $2500...which is about a set of Crowers;) BUT with that said my money's mine.

yeah funny how the same company can sell rods for one market at a respectable price , and the same quality of rod for another market for twice as much... their profit is the same either way, since they are selling twice as many of one as the other.

Crower is 6-8 weeks out, (yeah right) and $2340.00

Crower is 6-8 weeks out, (yeah right) and $2340.00

:whs::whs:

look there ^^^ someone was bright enough to realize exactly the point i was trying to make, thank you Dark

hey no problem. basic supply and demand, that's all i study haha - i would have problems coughing up the cash but until everyone starts rebuilding these motors with billets everyone's gonna be paying an arm and a leg.
so basically - everyone should start buying rods. haha.