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scott2001 12-08-2010, 05:41 AM Ive been give it some thought and i feel like i want to get into the poultry bussiness.
I used to do it as a kid, stopped when i was 14yrs old. Anyone in the bussiness.
from the people i talked to said i needed 3 houses to start out on. Just wondering if its worth the head aches for the money.
thanks
444-4D 12-08-2010, 10:05 PM The company that would supply your chickens can give you any info you want.
joedaddy 12-08-2010, 10:12 PM Tyson will foot the bill, but you're at their mercy unitl your lease is up.
In know there's a lot going up, I've hauled prolly 50 roofs this year, Tx, Ia, Mo, Neb, Wi, Col.
scott2001 12-09-2010, 04:45 AM i thought i footed the bill they jsut paid me, some of the ones around here are gold kists. I know its a lot of work, but its hosnt, adn its something i can do when im old.
I get to play BOSS then get other people to do the work lol.
MN_MountainMan 12-09-2010, 05:01 AM There is a great segment on how poultry farms are run in the film "Food, Inc." It is a little one sided, but it will give you that viewpoint of things and maybe balance out everything else you hear.
Certainly do your homework before you jump into the business...
(Italics=Scarcasim)
joedaddy 12-09-2010, 11:00 AM i thought i footed the bill they jsut paid me, some of the ones around here are gold kists. I know its a lot of work, but its hosnt, adn its something i can do when im old.
I get to play BOSS then get other people to do the work lol.
I'm not sure what you said there :confused: but Tyson WILL pay for everything up front. You supply the land and workforce, they supply the materials, construction and chickens. Swift will do the same for Hogs. 50% of everything I haul is Hog/Poultry Ag related and the land owner rarely pays us on NEW farms.
1 major tip here is to bust ass paying them off b4 the due date, otherwise it's the "Company Store" routine.
scott2001 12-09-2010, 02:17 PM i was still going to work my regular job, that pays the bills was thinking of pooling the money from this to one account just keeping enough on hand if something bad happened.
once everything got going was going to hire soem workers to keep everything up I was going to help out.
That was my thinking anyway. One of my freind teaches taxes so she would keep everything on the up and up.
444-4D 12-09-2010, 02:39 PM Tyson will foot the bill, but you're at their mercy unitl your lease is up.
You will always be at their mercy.
joedaddy 12-09-2010, 02:41 PM i was still going to work my regular job, that pays the bills was thinking of pooling the money from this to one account just keeping enough on hand if something bad happened.
once everything got going was going to hire soem workers to keep everything up I was going to help out.
That was my thinking anyway. One of my freind teaches taxes so she would keep everything on the up and up.
Where are you located?
Poultry and Swine need the same zoning clearance as a nuke site in some states.
RSieck 12-09-2010, 04:18 PM Also, you'll probably have to have some kind of manure management plan. I know on say a 2500 head hog building you need something like 500 acres of ground to apply manure on. At least its that way in IA
scott2001 12-09-2010, 06:01 PM i live in north alabama, here its you need like 5 acres to one house. some are getting around it by building super singles houses.
we have always just cleaned them out and sell the chicken chit to near by farms to put on hay pastures.
444-4D 12-09-2010, 10:06 PM some are getting around it by building super singles houses.
What is a super singles house?
CSIPSD 12-09-2010, 10:44 PM Ive been give it some thought and i feel like i want to get into the poultry bussiness.
I used to do it as a kid, stopped when i was 14yrs old. Anyone in the bussiness.
from the people i talked to said i needed 3 houses to start out on. Just wondering if its worth the head aches for the money.
thanks
I'm in the chicken bus...
http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/44732/2559162840100112691S600x600Q85.jpg
I have three houses too...
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/36325/2432892060100112691S600x600Q85.jpg
Cleaning up the turkey bones...
http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/15121/2855036720100112691S600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/29866/2986196970100112691S600x600Q85.jpg
LOL...Sorry...
JerseyJim 12-10-2010, 12:41 AM You will always be at their mercy.
:whs:
Don't know where you live, but if its somewhere that would allow you to cash in on the local food movement, you'd really be your own boss.
This guy has done it Polyface, Inc. (http://www.polyfacefarms.com/)
Best,
Jim
MN_MountainMan 12-10-2010, 04:29 AM :whs:
Don't know where you live, but if its somewhere that would allow you to cash in on the local food movement, you'd really be your own boss.
This guy has done it Polyface, Inc. (http://www.polyfacefarms.com/)
Best,
Jim
Joel Salatin, the farmer at Polyface, Inc has a segment in the film "Food, Inc." I really liked what he has to say in that film. I am telling you, go and find the film and watch it. Just as JerseyJim has stated... you can cash in on the "local food movement" and be your own boss. I really wouldn't want to be a chicken farmer for some big corporation. To them, you are just another poor sap who has bought into their scheme and I don't really think that is the kind of wholesome life/retirement that you might want to live out, then again... maybe you are. When it comes down to it, "food" these days is more of a question of "which corporate bed do I want to sleep in" more so than what kind of food do I want to grow?
Besides, the chicken farmers that grow for those big companies only make just enough to consider themselves right above the national poverty level. And the only thing they own of the whole operation, is the chicken chit. Tyson or whoever, owns the chickens, the chicken house, the feed, the antibiotics... everything but the chit. They use a bait and switch tactic to get you hooked and then keep changing the rules, and you can never keep up and make any money. The chickens are kept in the dark; can't take more than four steps because they are too big for their bone structure; stand in their own #### for 3 months until the low-paid illegal immigrant workers come and get them in the middle of the night. The chicken tender (you) gets sick from all of the ammonia in the air, and tired of the bs from the corp.
Get the film "Food, Inc," watch what Joe Salatin has to say, check out his website, call him even, and then call Tyson, or Golden Plump, or whoever. Just do your research, from all angles, and make up your own mind. Make a decision based on your moral compass, and then start looking for a place to dump your chicken chit... cause either way you are going to have some.
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