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93 Indirect Injected 11-12-2009, 08:04 PM So today while i was pumpin fuel today at the gas station, i heard wat sounded like an IDI in a truck similar to this...
http://www.c-reset.com/trucks/JH67T-1.jpg
i was wondering if this was indeed one of our IDIs and wat all did international cram these motor in to?
goodstktbo 11-12-2009, 08:13 PM Yep 6.9 idi. My old boss had a smaller dump truck with 6.9 10 speed real doggy. 65 was top top speed.
jdc753 11-12-2009, 08:21 PM Yup same deal through the years, all the "Ford" diesels have been in IH trucks, 6.9L and 7.3L IDI's and then T444E (aka Powerstroke) and VT365 (I think, 6leaker) and MaxForce 7 (aka 6.4L Powerstroke)
Doakster on here has an (I think) 93 or so IH 4700 with an idi 7.3L in it.
I believe all the IH applications had lower power ratings throughout the years compared to their Ford equivalents. Makes it nice though for cross referencing parts since usually its cheaper to buy parts from IH then it is from Ford.
93 Indirect Injected 11-12-2009, 08:25 PM idk it just kinda surprised me at first to hear the small (for this application) IDI motor in it
jdc753 11-12-2009, 09:10 PM yea like goodstktbo said they are usually dogs. Cheap to buy and when you don't need lots of power they are the good option. Many times School buses use these motors, and sometimes you see them in lightly specced Medium duty wreckers and ramp trucks, and the Uhaul you posted.
Its even more surprising seeing them with the hood open, you wonder where the motor went LOL
Not the greatest pic but here is Doaksters IDI powered International 4700 Dump truck...
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x82/andydoaki/Random/IMG_0231.jpg
notice how high up the intake scoop comes, and how high above the motor the master cylinder is lol
93 Indirect Injected 11-13-2009, 02:57 AM you know its bad when you have to search for your mini motor past the air scoop and rad lmao
M.L.S.C. 11-13-2009, 09:55 AM This is actually why these IDI engines can handle hard operating conditions others cannot (such as foot on the floor and bouncing off the governor for many many miles at a time, pulling a car hauler too) - they were medium-duty engines shoved into light-duty pickup trucks, as compared to say the 6.2 and 6.5 Detroit Diesels that GM used which are strictly light-duty engines... The medium-duty applications tho are governed at much lower engine speeds, I've seen claims of 2300 rms, as compared to my truck that defuels at 3800 rpms - reason behind it is that most torque is at around 2000 rpms anyways, and higher engine speeds only wear the engines out faster. Additionally, none of the medium-duty vehicles with the 6.9 or 7.3 IDI engine were turbocharged from the factory. So if you have a medium duty truck that is top-speed challenged, I would look into a pickup-truck turbocharger kit and also a pickup-truck specs injection pump, this ought to help in both power and top speed, and may actually decrease fuel consumption as well.
93 Indirect Injected 01-07-2010, 09:21 PM yes dead thread...well maybe lol
if ford still installing these motors or an i crazy, saw a newer looking UPS truck today and it had that IDI rattle, it sounded nothin like powerstroke(compared to the IDI)
cowboy_dan 01-07-2010, 09:50 PM UPS uses a bunch of different engines depending on where the truck is driven.
Gas engines mainly in the city around here, and diesels in the country. The smaller country trucks I believe use something like a 4bt, and some of the larger delivery trucks use a PSD.
It was funny touring the Bosch plant for work and seeing the pallets of injector pumps from UPS. The guy that was showing us around said the stack was from 1.5 weeks ago and they were to get another shipment in soon. I mean like pallet crates of injection pumps. Crates stacked 3 high, 2 deep, and 8 long!
UPS specified the pumps to be good for a certain number of engine starts, and it equates to worse than a pump per year per truck in use.
93 Indirect Injected 01-07-2010, 10:01 PM wow thats insane, but we only have the diesel ones around here in West Virginia.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060621/060621_ups_hmed_12p.hmedium.jpg
this one im describing looked like this, but wasn't a PSD, or the cummins 6bt or 4bt you usually hear around here, but it was deffenatly a diesel
jdc753 01-07-2010, 11:25 PM I know UPS used to have trucks powered with the IDI's but I didn't think any of them would still be in service. The bodies are pretty much all the same though, I know we still have some old 300cid gas job ones around here though.
UPS does some crazy stuff when it comes to their vehicles and specifications. Ever wonder why they shut the trucks off EVERY time they stop? They actually did a study over a few years and found it was cheaper to replace starters in the trucks that to pay for the fuel for idle time. Also with the new computer controlled trucks and GPS and satellite technologies, they were working on getting a system setup so that the home office could 100% monitor the truck, and say the motor blows they could check the log and find out what happened before it went and have the diagnosis done on the truck before it gets dropped by the wrecker.
Doakster 01-09-2010, 07:27 PM Just saw this thread now. Yes mine is a 1993 7.3 IDI International 4700 (Low-Profile) dump, 21,000 GVW, central hydraulics, electric/hydraulic brakes, 5 speed stick.
Since International is the original builder of the 6.9 and 7.3 IDI, you can find them in a wide variety of older international medium duty trucks. However, they stopped putting 7.3 IDIs in any truck/vehicle long ago.
Some say these trucks are a little underpowered with the 7.3 IDI in it, it may be a little true, but I can still cruise at 60-65mph with no problem. And my first gear is so low that I can really only go about 30ft before the RPMs are maxed out, has a lot of pulling power in 1st. I usually only use 2nd-5th when driving the truck.
Mine has 292,000 on it and it runs excellent, except for the pesky air/fuel issue that I have yet to solve, requires more cranking when starting.
You will notice that my air intake is higher, air comes up from the top of the hood and into the motor, master cylinder is also higher to line up with the pedal because of the higher cab, and the PS reservoir is also higher,
Overall it's a nice little truck. I paid $6000 for it.
But I would trade it for a GMC 4500/5500 4x4 Dump with a Duramax in an absolute heartbeat.
nasty96 01-17-2010, 09:30 PM wow thats insane, but we only have the diesel ones around here in West Virginia.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060621/060621_ups_hmed_12p.hmedium.jpg
this one im describing looked like this, but wasn't a PSD, or the cummins 6bt or 4bt you usually hear around here, but it was deffenatly a diesel
I have seen some of these around here with chevy chassis (duramax) and a few with frieghtliner chassis (I think they run mercedies diesels)
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