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6.0 EGR delete question

Rdh605
03-26-2012, 02:15 PM
I just purchased a 2005 6.0L 6 speed 4x4 F350 SWB. The guy told me the EGR had been deleted but I want to MAKE SURE it has. How can I visibly check this to know if I need to order a kit or not? I have dealt with 7.3 and 6.9 engines but this is my first 6.0.

toolmangary
03-26-2012, 04:30 PM
Look under the intake manifold on the right side and see if the cooler is still there, also see if EGR valve is still in the intake manifold.

501outlaw
03-26-2012, 04:32 PM
Depends on if they did a block off plate or a real delete look under the turbo on the left side under the intake and see if you see it

501outlaw
03-26-2012, 04:35 PM
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See the blue hose that's part of the egr

501outlaw
03-26-2012, 04:36 PM
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ghohouston
03-26-2012, 04:36 PM
It will be a long square tube under the passenger side of the intake man. It will have a blue or orange connection to your oil cooler if its stock still. Maybe take a pic and post it up on here? Or email it to ghohouston@hotmail.com

Rdh605
03-28-2012, 11:10 AM
It still has the EGR in it. Now to delete or try to keep it clean and working. How difficult is the deletion to do? I have heard an SCT or Gryphon programmer can solve the problem without deleting the EGR, any thoughts on that?

ghohouston
03-28-2012, 01:11 PM
Physically the delete can be done in a few hours if you know what youre doing

Term3
03-28-2012, 01:59 PM
It still has the EGR in it. Now to delete or try to keep it clean and working. How difficult is the deletion to do? I have heard an SCT or Gryphon programmer can solve the problem without deleting the EGR, any thoughts on that?

A full delete is the best way to go if your state allows it. Tuners will keep the EGR valve closed but it doesn't protect you if your cooler springs a leak. Even if you remove the EGR valve leave it plugged in for proper fan clutch operation.

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f21/egr-delete-will-fan-work-not-275000/

501outlaw
03-28-2012, 02:11 PM
Just do a real delete if that cooler gets a leak you'll have more problems to worry about

Rdh605
04-01-2012, 01:28 AM
I have heard some people have removed the EGR, replaced it with a plate and left it plugged in. Thoughts on that?
Thanks for all your help! I am new to the 6.0 world

Term3
04-01-2012, 01:01 PM
I have heard some people have removed the EGR, replaced it with a plate and left it plugged in. Thoughts on that?
Thanks for all your help! I am new to the 6.0 world

Do you mean put a plate where the EGR valve was? No, you can't do it that way unless you block off the EGR cooler. Best way is to do a full delete but a number of guys are buying a "EGR spool" on eBay to put in place of the EGR valve until they have the money to do a full delete.

NoSlow6.0
04-01-2012, 02:45 PM
You can check your EGR cooler by taking out the EGR valve and see if it is wet inside the intake madifold underneath it. Most of the time that means you have a bad EGR cooler. This happend to my daily driver a couple months back and I installed the Sinister kit. Very nice piece. And most tuners now alow you to turn the EGR cooler off so you dont get the warning light on the dash from unplugging it. Hardest part is just getting the up pipes out and getting them lined back up make sure and leave all the up pipe and downpipe conections loose and get all the turbo mounting bolts started and then start tightening everything up or you could end up with a leak. Sometimes everything lines up pretty easy but mine was a huge pain. Not that difficult of a job just take your time and try not to get fustrated because most of the bolts are in very tight spots.

KAWGRN
04-09-2012, 02:24 AM
A full delete is the best way to go if your state allows it. Tuners will keep the EGR valve closed but it doesn't protect you if your cooler springs a leak. Even if you remove the EGR valve leave it plugged in for proper fan clutch operation.

EGR delete, Will fan work or not ? - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com (http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f21/egr-delete-will-fan-work-not-275000/)

How does the egr controll the fan clutch?

Term3
04-09-2012, 02:31 PM
How does the egr controll the fan clutch?

The PCM controls the clutch fan and from the way it was explained to me is the PCM sees the inability to communicate with the EGR valve as a fault and does not give full lockup to the fan clutch for some dumb reason. I've read it on forums before by techs that know what they are talking about. I wish tune writers would figure out a work-around for this as I would love to throw my EGR valve in the trash where it belongs!!

Term3
04-09-2012, 03:36 PM
Side effect of disconnecting EGR valve (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/972688-side-effect-of-disconneting-egr-valve.html)

Rdh605
04-11-2012, 07:18 PM
Looks like I will be doing an EGR delete and oil cooler replacement soon just to keep it healthy.

J HO 22
04-11-2012, 07:26 PM
We have oil coolers and egr deletes in stock

Rdh605
05-03-2012, 05:04 PM
Also looking into just replacing the EGR cooler and Oil cooler in case TN ever gets emissions testing

501outlaw
05-03-2012, 05:24 PM
Put plugs in both ends and weld them in . If your state does get a emissions your will look goo to the eye. And if it does spring a leak it won't matter b/c both ends are welded shut

Idahoser
05-07-2012, 04:26 PM
I'm gonna replace my cooler with the BPD version, and leave it functioning. I don't want the hassle if I want to sell it to somebody who lives in the city where they get inspections. I also don't trust them to not make us all get inspected someday.

Rdh605
05-07-2012, 06:39 PM
I'm gonna replace my cooler with the BPD version, and leave it functioning. I don't want the hassle if I want to sell it to somebody who lives in the city where they get inspections. I also don't trust them to not make us all get inspected someday.

That's where I am leaning myself. I may do EGR cooler now, oil cooler later as the budget allows it. So far the degas bottle stays consistant and not loosing any coolant at all so an EGR cooler and Edge with EGT monitor may be the first two purchases

Rdh605
05-07-2012, 07:13 PM
BTW, if I do just go ahead with an EGR delete, what's the advantages of replacing the up pipe?

Term3
05-08-2012, 12:05 AM
BTW, if I do just go ahead with an EGR delete, what's the advantages of replacing the up pipe?

'05 (I believe) and later have a scoop in the up-pipe that is a slight restrict which is why some guys also get a modified up-pipe with the scoop cut out.

Rdh605
05-21-2012, 06:45 PM
Anyone have any real world data and reason for replacing it? That's a major headache to tackle if there isn't much gain.

Term3
05-23-2012, 03:56 AM
Less restriction in any exhaust system will result in more power. Would it be noticeable on a street truck, no.

Rdh605
05-23-2012, 01:02 PM
OK thanks for the help guys, may be leaving the stock pipe in place then!